• triangle [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    The anti-China stuff is getting really out of wack/completely unconnected to reality over on reddit. Like, people think China wants to nuke the world and everyone thinks China is about to invade Taiwan any second (some article noted that Taiwan had a 30 plane incursion recently or something like that, but Taiwan claims some of mainland China in its aircraft identification zone including some of the busiest airports in the world). They're really pushing Uygur genocide even while the posters on worldnews or subs like that push back. It's hard to tell what's legitimate and what's part of an astroturfing campaign.

    And then there's just the complete delusion, like who thinks Vietnam is going to be part of an anti-China axis along with Occupied Korea and Japan? How the fuck do you think Australia is going to be part of an anti-China axis with India - Australia is pretty dependent on China and I don't think India has the capacity to sail the Indian Ocean and help Australia in some defensive pact. It literally doesn't make sense. Or people think Biden is going to do a US version of BRI that somehow won't just be debt-trap diplomacy, while China is still offering favorable terms for infrastructure and also forgiving debt during the pandemic.

    This is China's decade, the bourgeois of the US and west wasted their time and effort on the middle east, austerity and foreign adventurism instead of focusing on infrastructure/logistics and reduction of poverty. China and the US sowed for the 2020s since the 90s and now it's time to reap - China's about to have a proverbial bumper crop while the US is about to have a proverbial dustbowl and blight. Even if Biden or western leaders want to start competing with China's growth for real, they have huge amounts of infrastructure debt and will be lagging this entire decade just trying to undo the damage that has been done. To actually surpass will require central planning and political will heretofore unforeseen in the west since the war effort in the 1940s.

    • carbohydra [des/pair]
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      3 years ago

      Vietnamese still have some bad blood with them, and are inexplicably close with the US

        • carbohydra [des/pair]
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          3 years ago

          How much of that money actually goes in the direction of Vietnam? I'm quite dumb, please explain. Why couldn't they replace US with China?

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Remember when China invaded Vietnam because Vietnam deposed Pol Pot? That's the most egregious example but not the only one.