Your life isn't going to be "normal" and it's not your fault. You are going to be different and it's not because you are better or worse. just different. Just do your best and that's all anyone can want from you.
What makes you think owning property means you don't know economics? I'm willing to bet those people also have a lot invested in stocks/bonds/business... feels like your just mad because they have an a you have not.
i brought up military as a single way to change your lot in life. there are plenty of others, i even mentioned as much in the original post. Is it perfect? Nope- is it a viable avenue? yep. Is it morally right- meh. Your views rely on the thought that what is morally right is how things should go- at the same time you try to say your ideology isn't based on morals but materialistic and critical evaluation of how things actually are.... while completely disregarding the reality of how things actually are and instead focus on what is morally the correct way to approach things... it's mindboggling to see the dissonance.
You are right that I disagree with the ideal and tenants of communism/marxism at a base level- those are great ideas that never can be realized as people aren't going to abide by the concepts in reality. Someone will always attempt to manipulate the system through avarice, laziness, whatever. So working for the appropriate value won't ever actually work. On top of that - people are going to always disagree on what a particular unit of work is valued at. There is no way to make a unit of work equal a particular value- doing so results in experts in their craft being paid the same as novices in their craft. This also results in no one being able to own anything unless you built it yourself from the materials you produced yourself.
Going your route will simply result in mediocrity everywhere and everyone not getting enough of what they need. You ultimately wind up right back in the same situation with some slob running things and taking more than his fair share and simply writing a tenet or law up to cover his butt.
as to the last half of your comment. what you said is absolutely saying everyone has to go kill civilians for their free education. Did you mean to say that? maybe not- but it's what you said. So to that i'll just say you should probably say what you mean rather than relying on the insane rhetoric that it actually is. We don't all live in lemmygrad/hexbear/comradeship and we don't know the inner talking points you guys have spun up. Nor do we want to. Because traditionally you aren't in here for real discussion but for the lulz and memes and to own the west/imperials/bourgeoise
of course- because my books are the only books and any other books are imperialist, bourgeois, evil landlord scum that needs to die. i'm glad you've accepted my viewpoint.
oh man no you have it all wrong humans are good and you're just intellectually lazy. we can all just get along. read this book by that guy. don't think about how it's never actually happened just believe that it can. oh let me get my comrades to come make insane nonsense and be insulting. look at al the upvoted i have. i' basically live in a community of like minded people that all just sit around wanking each other off to fantasy. it's great. join us.
Ok. I mean I personally believe with application of reforms and laws you can incrementally get things better. And it's more about fighting corruption than trusting in the integrity of humanity.
But hey sure if thats your take away. Probably would have saved a lot of time by not going through all those insane hoops and just starting here right? Almost like half thought analogies and pure rhetoric isn't an effective arguing tactic.
I mean I really haven't taken you seriously from the start for the previously mentioned reasons so I'm glad youve come an understanding of some sort at last.
Yeah of courze.it doesn't matter that less than 10% of us military personnel have ever seen any form of combat- giving you a 90% chance you'll never fire a weapon outside of a range.. of course joining means you get to go kill civilians.
Bro- you wandered in to a tangent about how people arent slaves and can make choices to a guy equating that to shooting civilians.
Lol of course I don't respect you. Nor do I feel the need to point counter point with you. Get bent.
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I invite you to look at literally every other argument in these threads and come back to me. You alone sure- you've been decent. You I don't necessarily have an issue with.
·1 year ago
No you