Never said they were???

Aight, disengaging.

I didn't accuse people of straight up lying.

Dead children sucks. Even if they are the children of fascists supporters.

Hamas disagrees with you.

The group said that avoiding harming civilians “is a religious and moral commitment”

It added that “maybe some faults happened” during the attack.

Thanks for the shitty bad faith accusations. This kind of conversation sucks.

Amazing law, I want it

Yep! The observable universe has an edge we're fairly confident about. Though while it is absolutely "expanding", unfortunately, space around it is also expanding, so the universe is getting bigger in size, but we don't think we're gaining any new mass or exciting celestial objects. Everything's just getting further away..

Some people in this thread really do need to

Violent opposition to genocide is of course justified, but publicly chanting supporting for an event that is, at the very least, widely public perceived as a massacre of civilians, is pretty shitty protest tactics at best. And discrediting fed-work at worst.

Critical support for Hamas. They should do more violent resistance to the IDF, and sadly civilians will die, but that aspect is an unfortunate necessity, not a thing to be lauded. Hamas themselves say they made mistakes in that attack.

People should not stand with them on every issue and event; overall obviously fighting a genocide makes them worthy of support.

Maybe it's because all popular media is corporatised grey goo now, whereas in the time of thelonelyisland, there was still minor room for internet creativity to be slightly different than very generic.

Everyone isn't really talking to each other but instead they talk to the audience.

I do agree that is it. I think this may be the fundamental, awful problem with modern-day social media and basically all forms of online interaction, even big Discord servers. To actually have a conversation with someone is basically impossible, you're just only ever people at podiums shouting into the void.

The ICC reply (though I like how they do try to reply genuinely and honestly) boils down to "but the palestinian government is/would be capitalist too, so...."

This is the very bad form of class reductionism, the idea that oppression/genocide/etc doesn't matter and isn't imperialism because it's not fundamentally along class lines.

Sure thing, ICC, but I don't think the people of Palestine are in any position to do any revolutions while under the iron thumb of the US and Israel. Nor do I think many people will view communist organisations positively if they sit by, ambivalent about genocide.

I assumed these were all meant to be like 14 year old kids, but Chunus and Jorch out here with their full beards really ruin that theory

Some forums have always been famously nasty places. For those of us old enough to remember the internet pre-2010, and lucky enough to stumble on the right corners of the internet, plenty of forums were actually super cool, tiny, self-moderated niche communities with like 20-30 active users tops where you could genuinely share passions and make friends. All but one of my good online friends I have now were made back then.

No idea how anyone would find many nice interactions now. Hexbear is as close as it gets for me, but it's still significantly different.

To be honest, this is a very common occurrence in all UK schools up to ages ~13. I and at least 10 other students in my year group of ~150 were forced to wet ourselves in the middle of class because our requests to go to the bathroom were denied, not even by particularly 'toxic' or 'mean' teachers, it's just a fairly normal attitude. I remember asking to go for like the fifth time, the teacher said "You can wait.", and in response I showed her my piss-covered hand.

You'd think cleaning up all the piss would be enough to deter that policy, but apparently not.

It is child abuse though, and these really shitty attitudes to the needs of children are not spoken out against nearly as much as they should be.

But your honor, did you account for the fact that while I was murdering many innocents I said "Violence should stop!"???? I should be exonerated

We're stuck in a very shitty choice of two: Someone who is actively doing genocide right now, and someone who will probably actively do genocide. Is the second just very slightly less shitty? I really don't know, I guess.