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  • This is borderline patsoc talking point btw.

    Can you elaborate? This got me thinking...

    Is it bc patsocs use fatalism regarding the struggle of indigenous nations as an "argument" to oppose it? Or is it that its reproducing fatalism regarding a just struggle that needs our solidarity and "pessimism" isn't helping?

    (I hope I am not being insensitive. Pardon me if I don't have the best read on this. I am not a USian and not super exposed to this and I know far too little about the topic)

    I obviously agree that its important to stand in solidarity with the struggle of indigenous nations in the land under US occupation! But I too would think that the Zionist regime would be happy to have their settler colony achieve US levels of "completion" of their genocide (which I also don't see happening, but that's besides the point)

    I don't see a contradiction between both. It would simply mean that one deems the struggle against the US settler colony, the struggle for liberation, harder as of yet. Which seems to be an unfortunate but fair analysis or not?



  • Seems like one moral of the story, is that eclecticism is a problem. Never confuse a bunch of quotes with understanding theory.

    Yes, the anti imperial struggle in the periphery can utilize nationalism to a revolutionary end.

    And no you can't compare your conditions in the US to those of Ho Chi Minh and Mao.

    We are not liberals anymore where an action is judged outside of its material conditions.

    Not the most knowledgeable on the topic, it might be fair to demand a more complete / consistent theory of nationalism in Marxism, but Lenin's distinction between revolutionary and reactionary national movements is still pretty clear in this case






  • TΛVΛR@lemmygrad.mltoMemes@lemmygrad.mlStages of Grief
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    3 months ago

    That is incorrect. Stages of grief do not only apply to terminal conditions where acceptance is fatalistic.

    Say you suffer the loss of a loved one. Accepting that they are gone holds within itself the key to continue your live. Acceptance, plain and simple, is a necessity to deal with reality.

    Similarly the acceptance that the capitalist system is inherently "broken" enables us to figure out how to deal with that reality, how to overcome its contradictions.

    Denying that many of humanities problems are rooted in capitalism does not. The comparison is valid


  • TΛVΛR@lemmygrad.mltoMemes@lemmygrad.mlStages of Grief
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    3 months ago

    I totally get your perspective too: you could swap acceptance and denial. Capitalists accept the justification of the status quo while MLs deny it.

    In the context of grieve I think Yogthos' perspective is more fitting: "Denial" is the denial that anything is wrong with the system and "Acceptance" of both facts, that the system is fundamentally flawed and that a pursuit of any idealistic one doesn't bear fruit is the necessary precursor for conducting a sober analysis




  • This was my last, longer comment about her (party).

    While it would be absurd for a Socialist to mistake her for a comrade, your scepticism towards her "problematization" (especially by liberals) is very warranted.

    It depends on who you compare her to. 30 years ago, she was a Socialist, compared to that modern day Wagenknecht is very bad.

    However if you compare her party to the German Bundestag, then 99+/-1% are more "problematic". As an example: for the longest time her new party stood alone in the parliament in opposing weapons exports that facilitate an active genocide (her old left party recently managed to overcome internal resistance and silently join her in that conclusion, though I wonder if its members know).

    I share and understand the frustration comrades have with some of her stances / rhetoric, but if you view imperialism or more specifically hyper-imperialism (as tricontinental calls it) as the main contradiction of our time - which I do - then both become clear: why she is in no way among the most "problematic" and also why she is constantly made out to be by the transatlantic media

    So yeah a comrades criticism of her is very valid (as I guess they don't support any other party in the parliament either), a liberals is - as always - massively hypocritical


  • I feel like whats desperately missing is a proper critique of capital.

    If you reject it (bc "commies / tankies / Nth iteration of red-scare") you simply won't be able to understand the world, period.

    Instead what you end up with invariably will be an "explanation" rooted in grave error, blaming an ethnic group, "globalists",...

    Ofc by suppressing Marxist lessons the ruling ideology incentivizes this reaction (as does liberalism being rooted in metaphysics even)




  • Germany is creepy as fuck right now. Its completely sliding into Military Keynesianism

    The decoupling from Russian energy, the "derisking" from Chinese markets and the move towards e-mobility which will crush German car companies (not saying I want more fossil cars - its just an analysis) are smashing the rate of profit. (That's a thorough sweep through most of the economic base in Germany).

    It does already lead to cuts on social spending which in turn makes ppl turn away from centrist libs.

    Who are they turning to? Well the left is nonexistent in Germany, so they are looking the same way that capital which is on the losing side of things is looking: the far right AfD.

    Meanwhile the transatlantic center is desperately trying to look for growth potential and finds the arms industry, which is in line with their Zionism, Islamophobia, Russophobia and Sinophobia anyways.

    So we now have discussions in Germany that we have to be ready for war with Russia in no later than in 5 years and are proudly opening up new arms factories.

    The more the AfD rises in polls the more the center will lean into war with Russia to mitigate an economic situation that benefits the AfD as well as create a narrative that is supposed to keep the "Russia friendly" AfD out of power.

    Meanwhile more and more authoritarian laws are enacted to protect the centrist parties from losing power while at the same time Ukranian-"solidarity" lets fascist elements seep in the centrist parties, predominantly the green party and its foundations (Heinrich Böll, LibMod, ...)

    I am not certain of all the mechanisms but I don't see any meaningful material development that would halt this. Renewables don't provide profit rates that can satisfy capitalists.

    I guess revolutionary potential in Germany grows higher than it has ever been, but with the huge head start in organization and capital of the right its going to be an uphill battle. Additionally a lot of whats left on the radical young left is massively confused (like pro-Israel, and pro-US), which is not to say psy-OPed.

    Regarding organization I see some good development on the left around Palestine, but its often ppl with a migrant background who are massively in danger of state repression.

    IDK I hope the more I am active the more opportunities will unfold, but I aside from organising I am considering leaving the country within the next years, although I would hope that we'll somehow be able to prevent recreating the 30s of last century as well as the 40s where Russia has to solve our fascism problem again!

    Looks like Luxemburg's Socialism or Barbarism again and I am not here for the Barbarism


  • Living there, was born there, agree with you!

    We were exploiting the Euro-zone and now burn it all on the altar of transatlanticism. And all of that with a moronic smugness.

    I hate it here. Nowadays German liberal elite has developed a disgusting kind of exceptionalism with a vibe akin to "we are the most humble people in the whole world."

    Ironically having been the perpetrators of WWII and the Holocaust nowadays reinforces the idea that "we are righteous". We have transformed German guilt into a twisted sense of pride, where our "culture of remembrance" is a sign of our superiority.

    (Ofc this culture of remembranc is inherently white supremacist, it's a different issue)

    As if a genocidal holocaust phase is a part of any countries development, other countries just haven't had theirs yet. So naturally we know better than these "pre-genocide" societies, right?

    These days we explain Jewish people what constitutes antisemitism, we explain to the world what constitutes a genocide ...

    Ofc there is more, we forge ourselves against the US and Israel (incidentally both post-genocide societies) bc it allows us to never question ourselves. Our lesson from WWII, our "humility", is to accept these 2 entities as our sole judges, as long as they will deem us good we are good, no questions asked



  • Thanks comrade! I have some disagreement about your strong admonition. We are talking about the only party plausibly in the next Bundestag that's demanding a stop of weapons exports to ultraright genociders - thats gotta be worth something.

    Be sure that I agree with you that some of her statements border a reactionary de-legitimization of gender struggles and I oppose that.

    But some of what queer.de writes here I can't follow. For example: They claim Wagenknecht is shifting blame for rising inequality onto queer people and the single source they give is this quote of hers:

    Open-mindedness, anti-racism and the protection of minorities are the feel-good labels used to conceal rude redistribution from the bottom to the top and give their beneficiaries a clear conscience. And they are not contradictory: marriage for all and social advancement for the few, quotas for women on supervisory boards and low wages in areas where women work in particular, state-paid anti-discrimination officers and a state-induced increase in child poverty in immigrant families.

    In my opinion their interpretation is completely unfounded, to me that quote sounds like an accurate critique of pink-washing reading into it that queer people are to blame for inequality seems a bit disingenuous. It seems like the authors have a gripe with Wagenknecht. That's understandable, she never explicitly speaks out for queer people (to my knowledge) and only every decries the discourse as a "distraction", I understand being pissed at that.

    But a continued existence of this party only ends one way

    What way is that? I can't see that even "their continued existence" would end in some kind of purges?! I don't look at it without concern but I believe the continued existence of her party is a good thing!

    A part of it is because I have finally lost faith in the only party I ever supported "die Linke". With their uselessness in opposing reactionary wars, from an anti-imperialist perspective, they have outlived themselves. Not only that they refuse to take part in leftist peace protest about Ukraine, when Israel began the hot-phase of their genocide the position of "die Linke" was terrible, I get that you have to condemn Hamas as a German party, but going on and on about them wanting to instate a Islamist dictatorship was proactively clouding the real cause for war and was playing Israels fiddle of necessitating the extermination of Hamas by all means. Eventually they were just about able to adopt a cease-fire position, against huge inner-party opposition, but AFAIK until this day they never demanded the end of weapons export to Israel. While at the same time they are demanding the gov to pressure Qatar to end their support of Palestinian resistance. Jan Korte, one of their members of parliament, is even demanding the gov to pressure egypt to open their borders to, de-facto, finally facilitate Israels plan of ethnic cleansing: https://www.fr.de/politik/linke-kritisiert-regierung-wegen-untaetigkeit-92741296.html

    And on a personal level: I am involved in ceasefire protests. We contacted "die Linke" from the very beginning, they nervously refused everytime - even when we were still strategically moderate. Fuck that, if I have to have a liberal, at least I want one with a backbone and an anti-genocide stance.

    As I have laid out elsewhere, Germany, and the EU as a whole, has taken a path of doubling down on war with Russia and from what I have seen these last years "die Linke" won't do shit about it, to me they are now just over the verge of being appropriated by imperialist forces. BSW, and Wagenknecht/Lafontaine in particular, are the only ones with a credible/longstanding anti-war stance and as an anti-Imperialist on that front they have more to show than any other party.

    Sorry if I got a bit emotional, I used to feel connected to "die Linke" and I am disappointed.


  • I am gobsmacked by how bottomless the pit of liberal idiocy is. Even they should see the argument of putting pressure on Biden to make him stop a genocide.

    But that's supposedly unreasonable. Liberals don't even see that possibility. Apparently it is the other way around pressure needs to be applied on those who are against genocide as genocide is just a given. How fucking dare they.

    Consequently they see even less potential for political participation than I do, yet they call the US democratic and I don't.

    They want to get it in your head that there is nothing you can do to prevent your representative from genociding, but that that doesn't mean he doesn't still represent your interests, "C'mon man".

    "If your representative doesn't represent your interests, then we have to work on your interests! Especially if you have a problem with genocide."

    There must be a way to wake up from this fucking nightmare. Or better yet wake everyone else up!