This missed the historical context for why downvotes were disabled on Hexbear in the first place. Moderators were trying to implement trans-friendly policies and features like pronouns, and reactionary weirdos kept downvoting the shit out of people who agreed with and wanted those features. Mods tried to ban based on upvotes and downvotes, but it didn’t work.
I think the assumption that any site’s general culture will be correct on an issue is a faulty one. Yeah, it’s going to be generally correct about international politics or Marxism or something everyone researched on the site probably (when it’s on Hexbear or Lemmygrad at least), but anyone who’s part of a smaller or more fucked over minority has to basically fight an uphill battle to even be listened to even with downvotes off. With downvotes on, someone asking for accommodations or sympathy in a radical or surprising way that other users haven’t seen before will just be shut down entirely. I think a good example of this is how I’ve seen people constantly make fun of others for stuff like not showering and, when people talk about how those with depression often do their best but can’t manage it and so making fun of someone for that can be hurtful, they were just ridiculed. If downvotes were enabled most complaints about ableism or more obscure forms of anti-queer oppression would be pushed to the fringes and ignored.
The main issue with downvotes are that they allow those with hegemonic beliefs to enforce them without considering why they hold those beliefs in the first place.
So ultimately, it’s a trade off between if you want to be open to more radical theory that people would have a knee-jerk reaction to and downvote, or be more closed to that theory but allow site members to enforce the popular opinion more strongly
Russia? But Ukraine is way more of a puppet state than Russia is. Russia was created as a U.S.-backed coup, which makes me suspicious of it, but it isn’t an active puppet like Ukraine is. Russia has somewhat broken free of those strings. It doesn’t really change it’s roots as the country that existed because of Y*ltsin and the cold blooded murder of the USSR though. Just means it’s opposing the right country for once, now.
I mean maybe? I guess what im saying is pretty irrelevant. Nobody trusts each other in global politics anyways. I wouldn’t expect it to be that controversial, though. I mean we’re talking about the country that was instated as a coup by the US.
Like, I wholeheartedly support their opposition of NATO and the US, none of this changes that
Yes but Russia is still sussus amongus
Just because there is no choice but to accept the sussus imposter as part of the group doesn’t mean they’re not a sussus amongus
At risk of coming across as a lib, I am super skeptical of Russia, but more in an Imposter Amongus sense than a “Russia bad!” sense.
Like their desire to attack NATO is based asf, but I don’t trust a capitalist country to be a good member of an international socialist coalition for long
So this is good, but North Korea should probably watch their back in electrical
Marxism is completely falsifiable and it’s why I like it. I don’t know if that’s relevant here.
It would only be non-falsifiable if Marx said that it would be impossible to measure or predict the mechanisms of social change. We can totally measure social habits and most of our measurements tend towards Marx being correct.
If it’s during a revolution and people are being held at gunpoint to give up their property, I would counter that an extremely large portion of wealthy people would give up their wealth without much issue at all.
My mental health has been repeatedly ruined by scientists reporting similarly ground-breaking and kind of shaky findings. Am I supposed to... not freak out about any supposed scientific fact that gets more than 1000 upvotes on Reddit?
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This missed the historical context for why downvotes were disabled on Hexbear in the first place. Moderators were trying to implement trans-friendly policies and features like pronouns, and reactionary weirdos kept downvoting the shit out of people who agreed with and wanted those features. Mods tried to ban based on upvotes and downvotes, but it didn’t work.
I think the assumption that any site’s general culture will be correct on an issue is a faulty one. Yeah, it’s going to be generally correct about international politics or Marxism or something everyone researched on the site probably (when it’s on Hexbear or Lemmygrad at least), but anyone who’s part of a smaller or more fucked over minority has to basically fight an uphill battle to even be listened to even with downvotes off. With downvotes on, someone asking for accommodations or sympathy in a radical or surprising way that other users haven’t seen before will just be shut down entirely. I think a good example of this is how I’ve seen people constantly make fun of others for stuff like not showering and, when people talk about how those with depression often do their best but can’t manage it and so making fun of someone for that can be hurtful, they were just ridiculed. If downvotes were enabled most complaints about ableism or more obscure forms of anti-queer oppression would be pushed to the fringes and ignored.
The main issue with downvotes are that they allow those with hegemonic beliefs to enforce them without considering why they hold those beliefs in the first place.
So ultimately, it’s a trade off between if you want to be open to more radical theory that people would have a knee-jerk reaction to and downvote, or be more closed to that theory but allow site members to enforce the popular opinion more strongly