No idea, truthfully. There are forty-odd candidates, so it's too much to keep on track of everything. I just went through the statements and voted for the only nine that seemed good

Thanks for the link. I know a Corbynite government wouldn't have solved all our problems, but the five years of opposition we got from him moved socialism back into the political limelight. Even if harm reduction and shifting the Overton Window is the most electoralism can do, I think it's worth somewhat supporting for that, but I can absolutely see why you'd think differently.

I think you're seeing electoralism as all-or-nothing. Socialism isn't a fight that can be won on a single front, so devoting either all or none of your energy to electoralism is useless. I'm happy to continue to promote socialism within Labour, but supporting Labour isn't the entirety of my political engagement.

I considered it when the report about internal sabotage got leaked as well. What convinced me was one sniveling comment on Twitter by some Blairite saying they hoped we all left. It reminded me that we can actually take control of the party again. These are terrible setbacks, but this just shows how much progress we've made in the last five years. Save for something monumental and unforseen, Labour is still the only chance Britain has of socialism, so I'll play the electoralism game.

The Greens have got some pretty cool ideas, tbf. They're probably better than Keith's Labour

Not really, no. He's not too involved with party politics anymore. Still makes shitty comments from time to time about "combating populism", but mostly he just runs his foundation for peace and stability in the Middle East (really)

If you're a member, make sure to vote in the NEC elections (as lib as this sounds). There are some candidates who really want to take power away from the PLP. Ideally, the leader should be directly accountable to the members so that we can throw this red tory cunt out

That's absolutely true. I know a lot of people who focus exclusively on electoralism. I'm happy to use it pragmatically for harm reduction and shifting the Overton Window.

I still want to participate because I know there's hope. the CLPs do a lot of good, hell, there's a guy in mine that hands out the Communist Manifesto to newcomers.

Gotta disagree there. The only good things in this godforsaken country came from Attlee and Wilson. The only real chance to oppose British neoliberalism has to be through Labour, unfortunately.

That was his major mistake. If they're gonna call it a stalinist purge you might has well do it. The next wave of democratic left leaders won't make excuses for the libs.

Last time Labour had a decent leader was Harold Wilson. The army planned two coups against him. It's a fucking miracle how close Corbyn came to winning given the press barons and internal party sabotage.

I'm torn between wanting to cut up my membership card and knowing i should fight from within. if this cryptotory scum becomes pm it'll be ten more years of blair

Careful, spez might ban us

Oh wait

That's true - trains are cheaper. The benefit of them I guess is that flying has like 2-3hrs of faffing before and after the flight, but trains just sort of run.

On another note, if wanting to half travel time in the UK makes me a trainologist then I am ready for that mad puss

Do you have info on anything specific? I'm on the Discord but haven't been following too closely.

How useful would a rail network like that be in the US? I live in the UK where even our admittedly shit one is a godsend, but the US is fucking massive. Would it make sense to have a coast-to-coast railway?