That's truly the only reason it exists.

Definitely is, just check in every now and then over the week as I've gotten in already so it's definitely working.

I heard it was because everyone was throwing Nazi salutes in public spaces in support of the current liberal candidate but maybe whoever said that was making it the fuck up

edit for raptor squad this is entirely sarcastic but Christ you're dense mate

States are responsible for everything in our federal system, only the federal government is limited in scope. A state voice will be a truly great thing to pursue for each state.

Yep, there's eligibility requirements, but in practice that means just lie about a reasonable one for you.

Yep, the caveat is if you're voting interstate you need to find an interstate voting centre. If you go through the aec site and hit I don't live in X state it will show you the interstate centres.

https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/voting.htm#start

Ooo will there be how to vote removed beautiful people hanging about at the polls?

You can check the aec site to see what is opening near you. My local will open shortly for early voting, but a few nearby opened on the second.

https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/voting.htm#start

Banning stuff does stop it, see Hitler (existing) or horses on highways.

Easy pasta

Pasta Olive oil Salt pepper Lemon juice (bottle) Sundried tomatoes

Not that complicated, just cook the pasta with a bit of olive oil, oil and lemon juice as a dressing, coat thoroughly. Sal and pepper to taste (: can pair with bacon etc for protein.

What's up W it?

I'm still a Fedora guy, started on Ubuntu years ago, tried arch (loved AUR) and all the Ubuntu derivatives but once I hit fedora it just stuck.

Oh sad, was just a joke, I'm as left as they come.

The People's Democratic Republic of Victoria is in a ruinous state after Supreme Leader and Defender of Victorian Socialism Dan Jon Un passed this morning. Residents could be seen violently sobbing on the streets near Parliament, Government House and the Leaders official residence.

Businesses have closed due to mourning, and some suicides have been reported.

Less than the active racism on the news, there's a hell of a lot of people who think righting wrongs isn't worth the small sum of cash and time that a voice will take up in the public sphere. People who think because we've been forced into a minority that we should lay down and accept being trodden on.

I'm not great fans of schrinner and the lot, but yes the public service is honestly great and very strong in enforcing Code of Conduct. There's a separate department for ethical violations to regular HR stuff, which seems quite strong on the surface, not that I've had any problems working there.

The idea that the voice is some sort of useless idea is seriously flawed. Policy institutes and Parliamentary hearing and committee are the biggest drivers of policy in this country. Media attention and petitions aren't nearly as effective in this regard. The voice will likely not be integrated as a Parliamentary comittee is, due to its being a separate body, but will still offer valuable representation to Parliament to those who came before these institutions and this country. Aboriginals had their own traditions, nations and sovereignty on land that was not ceded. We have accepted their legal and unique history with this land, this is merely saying that within the framework of Australia as a country, that Aboriginals deserve access to our legislature and executive on matters that affect them.

The popular argument by resident no voter @whirlybird@aussie.zone seems to be that this is virtue signalling and that this would be the end of social justice for Aboriginals, that resistance would develop in trying to advance a cause further. They seem to suggest that we would be better off doing something of substance, as to not foment resistance and resentment. I would hope that on the first point, its been made clear that there is real benefit to having a Voice, and the second is irrelevant, the Australian population will tire after a no vote, and after a yes vote. Its the jobs of those politically active, the media, the Voice itself, politicians, and those non apathetic people to push for more when the time comes.

A second argument I hear, and the most factually true argument I hear is lack of detail. It is true that there is a lack of official detail from those legislators who will be advancing bills if the referendum finishes in the affirmative. It is also understandable to want to know in substance what the fruits of your vote would be. Id encourage those who would like to learn to listen to ideas from the referendum working group and those associated with the yes campaign on rough ideas of a Voice if this is the case. Its important to remember that we are voting on the amendment though, not the bill itself. There are significant measures that must go into establishing the voice in substance:

• Will the voice exist entirely under its own weight, legislated by Parliament and run by itself, or will the bureaucratic arm of the voice exist in the Australian Public Service
• How will the voice be elected? How will regional voices be represented? Is a federal model (each nation receives x representatives), a state based model (each state receives x amount of reps) or a unitary, population based model more effective?

All of these questions take significant time. If you can focus on the amendment, and whether support those ideas outside of what a future voice may look like, it will help.

You've thoroughly thrashed him, applause.

This isn't much of a thing in this country but it's not impossible. Fear radicalisation and trivial legislation. Not an argument against the voice though.

Untrue. The high court would have something to say about an aboriginal voice being composed of non Aboriginals.