Just piggybacking to reiterate the sad truth of this comment, the Dutch have lost their effing minds and IMO are even more self-righteous about "Muh-kraine" than the USAmericans. Both in regards to the politicians and also majority of the people I've talked with about it. It's fucked.

Seems to me the endless onslaught of propaganda during Covid broke so many people's brains to the extent that they are seeking out more propaganda because they literally don't want to think for themselves at all. Hell I'd be surprised if many people on Lemmygrad continued to "follow the science" on Covid since Ukraine started as results from that worldwide experiement are finally starting to come out (instead of just the number models). shrug

I've had a similar experience before in NL. One evening at a bar I asked for an espresso (the machine was still on and functional) and the two bar women kept trying to shame me into getting a beer instead. Never went back to that place

And 80%+ of the Collective West's citizens will buy it, just like they bought Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia, Ethiopia, and Ukraine since 2014. It hurts my sensibilities. Some of the most intelligent people I know buy this shit, every fucking time. Clearly deep knowledge in one area doesn't matter much when it comes to spotting admittedly obvious patterns of propaganda. Sigh...

Not only that, they ignore the fact that Russia passed their law in response to the U.S. suddenly deciding to heavily enforce their FARA law specifically against Russia

The idea of "whataboutism" is beyond infuriating.

It's declared a logical fallacy when in fact, invoking the "whataboutism logical fallacy" in debate is ITSELF an implicit combination of multiple logical fallacies. Kafkaesque doesn't begin to describe it.

The US doesn't seem to accurately anticipate blowback in their schemes, I don't see why Covid would be any different. Take the "current situation" for example, they thought sanctions would cripple Russia and oust Putin and they have done neither. As well the sanctions clearly backfired on the EU and US.

Ahh that makes sense in a way. For some reason I was imagining a 'return of the kings'. Thank you for the explanation.

Why so many Kingdoms???

Don't you wish your GF was...

A shameless war criminal? Nah I'm good.