wow shes so cucked for not wanting random unrelated people to get hurt also. wow americans are SO dumb dude

I make the argument pretty heavily in my comments. If you aren't operating with the idea "All people are defined by their circumstances. Nobody deserves to suffer. Nobody deserves to die" in mind, I believe you will come to flawed decisions.

Your case is that because it is impossible to fully ensure that your decisions are not influenced by your emotions, then there is no point attempting to behave logically?

In your personal life, are there not many scenarios where you feel emotionally Y thing but know logically X thing?

I'm not advocating for you to detach yourself of emotions. I'm advocating for you to make your decisions with the idea that the way you feel emotionally may not necessarily lead you to the right action for your goals. In this case, just because you're angry and want to take drastic action to change things doesn't mean that such violent action is necessarily correct. Simply being aware of that idea and keeping it in mind when making your decisions will help you make better decisions.

All people are defined by their circumstances. Nobody deserves to suffer. Nobody deserves to die.

If killing a bad person really helps to better our society, then so be it. But most of the time, you're just killing someone because you want to, because you're filled with hate, and you're using a political movement as justification for an action that has no justification. It is extremely ironic how many leftists can want to dismantle the entire prison system and simultaneously support beating people to death.

Any action taken to harm someone should be taken with incredible care and calculation, and should never be something to be glorified.

responding to a dissenting argument by telling them to read more is ironically very anti intellectual.

Most inclinations towards violence you see here are not out of a belief that such things are necessary to bring justice and pursue egalitarian goals, they're just out of pure anger. You can see so many throughout history committing great violence because they wanted to and for no other reason. They always have a justification, but this isn't the real reason they did it. They simply had an inclination towards violence and then they created a justification for it so they could pursue their inclination. If you're not constantly introspecting into what the actual best strategy is in each certain scenario, you will just succumb to your emotional inclinations, rather than positively furthering justice.

Will violence be necessary at some point to genuinely transform our society? Probably. However, the best way to further leftism today is to build solidarity, help working people, and support unions. Going out and killing bill gates won't do anything, and posting on a forum for 5 hours a day about going out and killing bill gates certainly won't either.

Is kinda cringe and unmarxist 😳

Another unfortunate quality of internet leftist forum users is that they tend to stray away from making arguments as to why things are bad and wrong and go more towards arguing how things do not fit within the in group. This is a perfect example. What is the fundamental reason that leftism should not be centered around empathy? You do not care to argue it. You only say "it's not marxist," in an attempt to paint yourself as being in the realm of what people who post to chapo.chat are supposed to believe, and myself as not being within that realm. Marx isn't automatically correct about everything. Maybe you think he's correct on this issue. So you should say what he argues, if you agree. But instead you say "marx doesn't agree, therefore you must be wrong," without providing any kind of evidence. It's a pretty helpful case study as to why people stay stuck within their in groups, never learning anything or converting anoyone new.

You don't overcome cynical violence and abuse of power by doing it yourself. You have to offer a real alternative. Fantasizing about violence against those you dislike is just succumbing to your emotions and desires rather than devising a real plan to counter such evil.

"Nothing in the world is as soft and yielding as water. Yet for dissolving the hard and inflexible, nothing can surpass it.

The soft overcomes the hard; the gentle overcomes the rigid. Everyone knows this is true, but few can put it into practice.

Therefore the Master remains serene in the midst of sorrow. Evil cannot enter his heart. Because he has given up helping, he is people's greatest help.

True words seem paradoxical."

Lao-Tzu

do you not see how this retort is completely useless? there are very few people in the world who can claim to be "experts" about revolutionary politics, and even they dont have many or even a significant amount of definitive answers. im just a guy with a philosophy degree who thinks a lot. my credentials dont matter. im making a claim. if you dont give a shit about me you can ignore my claim. but saying im not enough of an "expert" to make that claim is just a waste of time and discourse. just dispute the claim.

1. it's not tactical advice. it's a distinction between genuinely caring about helping people and just wanting to tear shit down because youre pissed

2. scolding account age on a two week old forum lmao

doesnt need to be. i can read this forum for 10 minutes and see people fantasizing about nuking israel, beating racists to death, etc etc