Someone has to work at McDonald’s I suppose, and it’s not going to be Timmy from the Hampton's.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    You know this even extends to Rage Against the Machine, which is a band whose lyrics are maybe two degrees away from directly advocating mass revolt. The guitarist graduated from Harvard and his dad was Kenya's ambassador to the US, the bassist's dad was a NASA engineer.

    They've always been an anomaly to me. How are they able to get record deals and play concerts? They're openly socialists and don't even shy away from it.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Because the lyrics are so esoteric and all over the place that chuds can be fans of theirs. They're turning exactly zero people from liberals into communists. I feel like Immortal Technique, Bambu, etc. are a lot clearer in the message to the point that it can't be ignored, and they seem a little less well known. And RATM is only a little less "left-wing-as-an-aesthetic" than Run the Jewels (which isn't really left wing at all). Any "dissent" is mostly an aesthetic that adds a tiny bit of meaning to something that is otherwise just silly.

    • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Do they openly criticize capitalism itself or just its most visible symptoms and effects? I'm not a big fan of theirs so I don't know, but I think precedent has shown that criticism for the effects of capitalism is tolerated so long as criticism of capitalism itself isn't mentioned.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Their album "Evil Empire" has a song on it entitled "People of the Sun" which is a positve endorsement of the Zapatistas. They've also performed with an EZLN flag on stage before. Another song on that album quotes Mao. Lyrics can a lot of interpretations (it's actually pretty common for RATM fans to have no clue how socialist they are) so it's often easier just to point to interviews and other activities they've done.

        Tom Morello, the guitarist, is probably the most clear. He's said it outright in interviews, in no uncertain terms, using the terms capitalism and socialism. He's blamed capitalism directly for climate change, for instance. He also has a side project where he plays IWW songs.

        It's hard to summarize, but at least vocally and where they spend money on charity, the band members seem consistently socialist in their ideology to me. They're rich and work for Sony though, so take that as you want. It's difficult for me to express how much of an anomaly they are. My best guess has always been their symbols and lyrics are obscure enough to fly right over the heads of most Americans to the point where they don't seem threateningly left wing, since they don't focus on the cultural identifiers. How many Americans are going to identify left wing politics through praising Zapatistas and singing Franz Fanon quotes?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I always find it funny that They Might Be Giants is openly communist and their music is used in tons of advertisements.

          At their first concert, They Might Be Giants performed under the name El Grupo De Rock and Roll (Spanish for "the Rock and Roll Band"), because the show was a Sandinista rally in Central Park, and a majority of the audience members spoke Spanish.[10]