I mean had there been better organizations leading into the protest maybe.
Like if DSA/PSL/CPUSA was an actual electoral force and/or a general union like the IWW was in place to be able to threaten a general strike then they could have worked with BLM groups to force their actual demands.
There wasn't, though, so once they started making people go back to work by lifting restrictions, Dem campaigns were able to co-opt the energy of the movement, and there was no labor threat to capital it wasn't really going to happen.
To be fair, the real radical leaders of BLM who could have taken the protests to the next step were all found dead by suicide in cars that spontaneously combusted.
Ok, what is the number of organizers that can be killed that will or won't affect future protests? I suppose you know that 6 isn't enough, if 10 had been killed is that enough to be relevant? Maybe it's 15?
Whatever the number so that people even are aware about it. The protests dropped in multiple cities for a wide variety of reasons and i havent heard a single person quote ferguson activists as the reason. Where im from they ended due to strict crackdown and public opinion massively swayed by multiple shootings that happened where shit was centralized at. And that was for the hardcore people. Popular local support (like the actual mobilized people who are not as massively into politics as actual communists/anarchists, the locals who dont normally get involved) dwindled quite quickly after it was apparent that the police were willing to clash and not budge at all. That and i dont assume theybare going to show up day after day after day.
We had our organizers and we didnt have the people, because quite frankly, it isnt the most populat stance to have in america.
I mean had there been better organizations leading into the protest maybe.
Like if DSA/PSL/CPUSA was an actual electoral force and/or a general union like the IWW was in place to be able to threaten a general strike then they could have worked with BLM groups to force their actual demands.
There wasn't, though, so once they started making people go back to work by lifting restrictions, Dem campaigns were able to co-opt the energy of the movement, and there was no labor threat to capital it wasn't really going to happen.
To be fair, the real radical leaders of BLM who could have taken the protests to the next step were all found dead by suicide in cars that spontaneously combusted.
Wait really? I thought they just got ousted from the orgs by liberals.
A good handful of mostly Black, leftist organizers have "mysteriously" died since Ferguson way back in 2014. Same as it ever was.
the problems of 2014 are really ripening now, huh?
The problems of 2014, of 1992, of 1979, of 1968, of 1963, of 1955...
I mean yeah, but I'm just remembering stuff from my childhood coming back to the forefront.
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there were some original ones under obama that got whacked shortly after and then the libs took over
oh jesus christ
No, not really. they are referencing like 2 ferguson organizers who died with extremely weird circumstances, nothing to do with 2020
It's more than 2 https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-ferguson-activist-deaths-black-lives-matter-20190317-story.html
Still entirely irrelevant to why 2020 protests died out
Ok, what is the number of organizers that can be killed that will or won't affect future protests? I suppose you know that 6 isn't enough, if 10 had been killed is that enough to be relevant? Maybe it's 15?
Whatever the number so that people even are aware about it. The protests dropped in multiple cities for a wide variety of reasons and i havent heard a single person quote ferguson activists as the reason. Where im from they ended due to strict crackdown and public opinion massively swayed by multiple shootings that happened where shit was centralized at. And that was for the hardcore people. Popular local support (like the actual mobilized people who are not as massively into politics as actual communists/anarchists, the locals who dont normally get involved) dwindled quite quickly after it was apparent that the police were willing to clash and not budge at all. That and i dont assume theybare going to show up day after day after day.
We had our organizers and we didnt have the people, because quite frankly, it isnt the most populat stance to have in america.
yea thats why nothing changed, for sure
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Organize!
March 9th organizer training
IWW
DSA
Socialist Rifle Association
GOOD reply
Remember when Obama broke the NBA strike by telling them they need to shut up and dribble?
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I agree I was just speaking on how it was at that point in time.
I know a lot of people who were radicalized by that summer.