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  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    V for Vendetta.

    A government uses a false flag pandemic to consolidate power through provision of a vaccine. A single person in a Guy Fawkes mask wins the populace over with atrociously verbose wordplay and domestic terrorism. He also wins the girl over to his ideology by kidnapping and torturing her.

    It’s less lib and more outright reactionary, but whatever.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      The writer of V for Vendetta Alan Moore is literally a communist space wizard which makes this quite a funny one. The point of that story is really supposed to be a superhero doing revolution against British fascism. Of course the whole 1 person thing is a problem but that's always going to be a problem doing a superhero style graphic novel, but the overall premise beyond that is just revolution and not moralising about it.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Moore disowned the movie, saying it was Liberal performative whining about 2000s-era Neo-cons

        The graphic novel presents V as way more ambiguous morally

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, also even if V is still the instigator in the novel, a lot of the chaos and unraveling of the fascist state is because of the different parts of it manouvering against each other and trying to seize power, V is only tangentially involved in killing the head of state, he's just assassinated by a relatively random woman who has been victimized by the system.

          Also the aftermath is shown as having very harsh effects on people even if its good that the fascist state has collapsed, one of the last things we see is a woman being forced into selling herself for food cause all of hers was stolen, which might be intended as a kind of karmic thing cause the woman was one of the main political schemers in the fascist state but its still fucked up and something that would happen if the state collapses with no real structure or organization to follow it. Contrast that to the movie which just kinda ends in a peaceful demonstration and the fascist soldiers refusing to gun down a crowd.

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        i think people mostly arent aware of the whole catholic monarchist chud aspect

        and its just easy for people to empathise with a dude who wants to blow up the british parliament, its relatable yknow

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It's not that he was a freedom fighter. It's that a conspiracy of like eight guys almost overthrew a poweful nation. It's a demonstration that even the most towering and monolithic entities are still vulnerable, and that highly motivated individuals can in fact change the world.