I don't see how it fits into the leftist project, and we can't get anywhere if we have these types of anchors around our necks.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    first of all, it's kinda funny to laugh at them so please don't. second of all like, as dumb as crypto is, calling it 'against the leftist project' is a weird way to phrase it, like all this is is securities speculation with dumb tech bro shit slapped over the front, I bet you Marx woulda dabbled in crypto

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I personally know people who are left wing, bought into crypto early, aren't true believers, but got out when it went up and bought a house. Which I have to say, is goals.

    • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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      It's against the left project because it carries a dangerous amount of false consciousness and directly funds the kinds of people who want us dead, all while destroying the environment.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        individual boycotts against nerds playing with numbers does not do anything to stop the fascists, and you can just as easy argue that it can fund the left or mutual aid or whatever you wish because looking at things through an individual lense is pointless as an analysis. if you wanna play the game know how risky it is like with any securities, and be aware it's a grift you are actively being grifted in. but acting like you fund nazis by buying shitcoin is completely disingenuous, lacking in material analysis of economics, and shockingly individualist.

        communists do not oppose capital and finance because X or Y might fund Z bad guy, they already have infinite money and resources with the backing of capital what more is 20 milliongonna give those with the US fed behind it? we oppose finance and capital because we oppose a system of private property and private ownership of the means of production that stocks are an outgrowth of.

        • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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          I don't get why people so keen on defending shitcoin have to always come at me with the worst bad faith arguments. I clearly stated that the system serves the far-right. The only one making this about individuals is you.

          and no, it's uniquely bad because a lot of the terrorists who are getting their funding from crypto are so bad that even capitalists don't want to touch them. There's a reason they invented the scheme.

          • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I literally have not once defended it. I called it a grift and the same as any other evil outgrowth of finance. I am telling you your reasoning for opposition is not grounded in any materialism, which as a Marxist is where my analysis of thos comes from.

            you are extraordinarily naive if you think the US wasn't funding terrorists and the like via a billion ways before crypto. none of this is new, crypto is not special, it's the same old systems with the same guys profiting from it all but with a shiny new spin.

            • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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              Ugh I'm so sick of this. Go invest in shitcoin and lose it all. Go destroy the environment. Fuck it. I'm not going to change your mind. Just don't go around telling people that disagree with you that they're being immaterial when you're the one going around trying to topple a primary contradiction through a secondary contradiction. There's two ways of reading that and neither are good, both serve capital. I would seriously reconsider that line of thinking if you don't want to come across as a crypo-fash. Because that's exactly what you call someone who talks like a leftist while consistently acting in the best interests of capital.

              • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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                3 years ago

                we're both queer people struggling against capitalism. don't imply I'm some kind of crypto fash here, that's really fucked up. we can disagree about how much crypto benefits them but at least presume people here are comrades you're talking to until proven otherwise

                  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    you can go through my account if you wish. like I think you're just arguing past me. I think crypto is bad, I just think it's bad because of the same reasons capitalism is bad, not because this is some magic ploy that's especially evil. and unsurprisingly, yeah, I a queer muslim don't like being called a fascist, and have asked you to retract that because were both people who have boundaries and feelings

                    • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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                      3 years ago

                      "I find it extremely offensive that you are calling me a fascist and demand you retract that statement at once"

                      Keep digging that hole.

                      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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                        3 years ago

                        yeah, why would it be unreasonable to not want to be called the people who literally want to kill you? like I'm cool with us disagreeing about why crypto sucks, but you're going a weird direction with it