“The players will not play on Thursday and we accept their decision,” Hasler said. “These young men are strong in their beliefs and convictions and we will give them the space and support they require.

remove them from your team, make cancel culture real I beg of you :trans-gun:

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    To be fair it's not really the Brits that are against it. A while ago Israel Folau was homophobic and the rugby world clowned on him for it. Rugby Union's had openly gay legends of the sport for quite some time now. The players that are going against it at the moment are mostly from similar ilk as Folau, being indigenous but raised Catholic probably in a Catholic school

    • KiaKaha [he/him]M
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      Here’s a take I saw on Folau that made me pause for a bit.

      Missing from the public discourse is the background of how evangelical Christianity swept the Pacific Islands. This the story of colonialism and Christian missionaries and Captain Cook; of the destruction of local religions and languages.

      It is the story of how all over the world, cultures that didn’t have laws or customs against homosexuality or gender fluidity could become so puritanical that they turned against their own LGBTIQ brethren in favour of the gospel as preached by their colonisers; only for the colonisers to then finally soften their own stances against homosexuality and decide that homophobia was yet another moral failing of the colonised. *

      I still don’t like him, but there’s a grain of truth in it.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        It's true, but there's plenty of others who were raised the same as him who have not publicly denounced gay people.

        It's true that there's a history there but there's also history in the white families of Christianity for generations upon generations, whether it's from aristocratic members or poor Irish convicts sent to Australia.

        I don't know, I just say fuck them off until they decide to shut up and play the game.

      • MtF_DOOM [she/her,they/them]
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        That history of colonization can be true and also still be internalized bullshit they need to work through if they’re in a position of public influence.

        Māori culture has a long and proud tradition of multiple gender identities outside the colonial gender binary as well as notions of queerness. There are are a lot of trans and GNC Māori folk bigots like that are actively harming.

        You’re right that there is complexity there and also the material impact of bigotry and hate remains a deep rooted problem that must be addressed.