There is no number of foreigners that is unacceptable to sacrifice for a middle class livelihood. Anti-cop because they can imagine a scenario where a cop inconveniences them. These principles don't apply to the Waffen SS because they can't imagine a soldier personally inconveniencing them and, of course, foreigners aren't really humans.

  • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    This is useless moralising. If you want to overthrow this system, you'll need to recruit soldiers and even some officers, and if you would have to let them escape cognitive dissonance via thinking of themselves as victims, so be it. Cops are mostly useless, so fuck them.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          And American troops in the last 30 years which signed up voluntarily, not even drafted or conscripted, are somehow useful for a revolution in an international context?

          I'd agree if there was conscription or a draft, but there isn't. Everyone talks about how troops were useful in previous revolutions while ignoring the fact that these were conscripts, not volunteers

          • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            1974 Revolution in Portugal was mostly done by volunteer soldiers and officers, so this option is possible (if unlikely in USA). But you would still need soldiers and officers to train your leftist militias or you would get steamrolled.

            I hope all this shit around Ukraine and Taiwan would lead America to reestablish draft. It would be really useful for the Left.

    • Quaxamilliom [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      lmao whats an American soldier gonna do to help overthrow the system? Our enemies arent gonna be small kids and women and they're not gonna be able to hide in a bunker and call in an airstrike.

      • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        It's really dangerous to underestimate your enemy. The Left in USA is not going to take power without a civil war, and it is really important to prepare for it - building organizations, training in tactics and weapon use, and if you could find soldiers who could teach you how to use artillery and tanks, than it would be even better.

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      We shouldn't let imperialists get out of being accountable for their service to such a force of death and destruction

        • Kanna [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          We can start holding them accountable by not letting them think they're absolved. Your comment isn't even willing to do that

            • Kanna [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              If all you can do now is push back when you hear someone downplay their service, that's still better than letting it go

              • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                I think that "letting go" should only be an option for people who are genuinely switched sides to the revolution. But you wouldn't have much success to switching them without even showing them that this option even exists.

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      you’ll need to recruit soldiers and even some officers, and if you would have to let them escape cognitive dissonance via thinking of themselves as victims, so be it.

      this is how your "leftist" project gets junta-ed by these same military officers that you let skate on self-crit because they were good at Murder