Direct pdf link to UN report

Select passages from the BBC article:

The UN has accused China of "serious human rights violations" in a long-awaited report into allegations of abuse in Xinjiang province.

China had urged the UN not to release the report - with Beijing calling it a "farce" arranged by Western powers.

The report assesses claims of abuse against Uyghur Muslims and other ethnic minorities, which China denies.

But investigators said they uncovered "credible evidence" of torture possibly amounting to "crimes against humanity".

They accused China of using vague national security laws to clamp down on the rights of minorities and establishing "systems of arbitrary detention".

The report, which was commissioned by the UN's Office of the High Commissioner on Human Rights, said prisoners had been subjected to "patterns of ill-treatment" which included "incidents of sexual and gender-based violence".

Others, they said, faced forced medical treatment and "discriminatory enforcement of family planning and birth control policies".

The UN recommended that China immediately takes steps to release "all individuals arbitrarily deprived of their liberty" and suggested that some of Beijing's actions could amount to the "commission of international crimes, including crimes against humanity".

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China denies all allegations of human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

In response to the Xinjiang Police Files, China's foreign ministry spokesman told the BBC that the documents were "the latest example of anti-China voices trying to smear China". He said Xinjiang enjoyed stability and prosperity and residents were living happy, fulfilled lives.

China says the crackdown in Xinjiang is necessary to prevent terrorism and root out Islamist extremism and the camps are an effective tool for re-educating inmates in its fight against terrorism.

It insists that Uyghur militants are waging a violent campaign for an independent state by plotting bombings, sabotage and civic unrest, but it is accused of exaggerating the threat in order to justify repression of the Uyghurs.

China has dismissed claims it is trying to reduce the Uyghur population through mass sterilisations as "baseless", and says allegations of forced labour are "completely fabricated".

Criticism of the report (Reddit comment):

A lot more underwhelming that I expected. Seems to boil down to a few main points:

  1. The XUAR has seen a large rise in acts of terrorism related to religious extremism
  2. To prevent this, China implemented a system of "Vocational Education and Training Centres" (VETCs) to rehabilitate and educate away the extremism

The concern then follows:

  1. China has implemented a system of policing that is overly vague and overreaching, that allows the government to easily place citizens in the VETCs.
  2. China trains their police force in ridiculous manners to identify religious extremism
  3. Once transferred to a VETC, the conditions there are brutal and more akin to a torturous prison.
  4. There are also concerns of erasure of religion and attempted forced birth control

My issue with the report, is the use of a small amount of interviews declared credible, to then corroborate the rest of the sources. These sources include the classic and long debunked Zenz, Xinjiang Police Files, unofficial document translations (long history of bias in translations), etc. Given the long history of terrible witness reliability (Nayirah testimony, SK $900,000 reward to NK defectors, Iraq's WMDs, etc), I'm still going to hold off on agreeing with the accusations of genocide.

  • Ideology [she/her]
    hexbear
    13
    2 years ago

    Your ignorance of CIA Ops and US Hegemonic Imperialism that everyone else around here has already read-up on?

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
        hexbear
        2
        2 years ago

        The first lesson of propaganda is emphasis.

        Why did this report happen in the first place? Why are there not similar reports given mass incarceration and detainments? What is the pattern of who is targeted by these reports?

        Always ask, "why are we talking about this and not something else? Is the same questioning applied equitably to all parties in the category?"

        An example: anticommunist tabulations of "death tallies" in communist countries fail to apply a reasonable standard, sure. But most importantly, they don't even make an attempt to apply the same standard. Amartya Sen looked at this question for India and found the same order of magnitude more capitalism-caused deaths happening every decade in India as even the most ridiculous counts for, e.g., the entire history of the Soviet Union (including when jokers include the deaths of Nazi soldiers in their tallies). What is the dominant narrative and understanding in the West? That communist countries oppress and kill en masse. Zero introspection. Zero attempt at a comparison. Used to vilify the other and entrench oppression at home.

        When you read this report, when you talk about this report, you're already an unwitting victim of a propaganda effort, even if you don't think the report is good or even if you think the report is good but the decision to make such reports is unbalanced. It got you thinking about the bad things done by the bad country, which is the primary reason such reports happen.