I'm usually those users lol, but Iran's protests just seem like the result of a conservative society with unaccountable cops, rather than the color revolution some are calling it
Yeah, the young woman who died was Kurdish, the protests started in Kurdistan, and the Kurds will happily revolt against the Ayatollah without any help from the CIA. Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.
any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people
Why aren’t you considering the lived experience of Miami Cubans and the Falun Gong? It’s pretty dismissive to the agency of oppressed people. You privileged white leftists should stop talking over POC :fedposting:
Yes. A healthy 20 year old woman dies from COVID, a deep cover CIA asset bribes her family to say her body was bruised and manages to orchestrate near country wide protests is definitely the most likely scenario. You've cracked the code! Fucking CommAnon is real.
Oh man. You put fake in all caps, it must be true. Oh no, you called me an NPR lib, how will I ever recover? How many alts are you on at this point, Serbian MILF, I mean Zposter? What a life. Banned from Twitter, banned multiple times from this site. Maybe the world is trying to tell you something.
Whatever convoluted narrative you need to weave to ignore the plain and simple evidence in front of you that you fell for propaganda and refuse to admit it
You're the expert in creating narratives. Your hatred for the US has blinded you to any other possibility other than a CIA plot. People who live in countries that are not under the thumb of the US can be upset with their leaders. They're allowed to demonstrate against those governments. Regardless of whether or not the woman's death was causes by police those are real people, with real grievances. Do you know and Iranians? I do. We've had long talks about how the revolution was co-opted by the Islamists and that there are many people in Iran who are not happy.
They’re allowed to demonstrate against those governments.
I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about you and the other chauvinists in this thread repeating lies. You are not allowed to join in on imperialist intrigues against nations your empire is at war with. That’s chauvinism.
Regardless of whether or not the woman’s death was causes by police those are real people, with real grievances.
Ok, and there’s nothing you can do to alter the situation in Iran except join the imperialist mob of your own empire
Western leftists want to imagine themselves as platonic universal creatures able to cast judgment from the heavens. You are a material, specific creature from a specific political region
So the people demonstrating aren't the problem, it's us western leftists besmirching the reputation of the Iranian moral police? Your main concern is the cops. Very cool.
Supporting it from America or the west, while your empire has its crosshairs trained on Iran, and making up stories - yes that is chauvinism
wow are you a Saddam supporter?!? You don’t support saving the lives of the babies in incubators? You don’t support the Iraqi people overthrowing tyranny???
Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.
This is the same line that libs trout out every time there is a color revolution
True there's a tendency to oversimplify overseas domestic conflict, and also that exact line, about the denying the agency of chosen dissenters has been specifically weaponized to give cover for regime change ops, most recently, to my recollection, in Bolivia and Cuba. You're still correct imo in this case
How are they correct in a case that’s literally made up? Video evidence shows she collapses due to a medical reason and there was no evidence of police brutality.
And you're pushing CIA supplied crisis actors in Iran of all places. I'm a trot, I'm an anarcho-bidenist, I'm a chauvinist, but at least I'm not on some Alex Jones level conspiracy bullshit.
I did a little googling on ISA, they come out of a Trotskyist org called CWI that split in 2019. The main faction eventually reformed into ISA, while the splitting faction accused the remainers of ignoring trade union agitation, and not incorporating class analysis in their work on advancing gender equality and LGBTQ rights.
Could be nothing, could be made-up, or the main faction could be following the wrecker playbook :shrug-outta-hecks: who can say
Is this a bit or are ISA actually :ursus-hexagonia:
If you say anything negative about a country that hates the US you're automatically branded :cia: by certain users of this this website.
I'm usually those users lol, but Iran's protests just seem like the result of a conservative society with unaccountable cops, rather than the color revolution some are calling it
Yeah, the young woman who died was Kurdish, the protests started in Kurdistan, and the Kurds will happily revolt against the Ayatollah without any help from the CIA. Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.
Why aren’t you considering the lived experience of Miami Cubans and the Falun Gong? It’s pretty dismissive to the agency of oppressed people. You privileged white leftists should stop talking over POC :fedposting:
Everything that ever happened was done by the CiA, I am very smart.
Nope, but made up narratives that incite civil unrest in our enemies almost certainly involve CIA and US empire media perpetuating them
Yes. A healthy 20 year old woman dies from COVID, a deep cover CIA asset bribes her family to say her body was bruised and manages to orchestrate near country wide protests is definitely the most likely scenario. You've cracked the code! Fucking CommAnon is real.
People die randomly from medical ailments all time, even young healthy people.
Then western aligned comprador media groups and NGOs all get ahold of the random death and start to weaponize it for their own agenda.
Western mainstream media picks it up and perpetuates it.
CIA calls in their favors with all their assets within Iran to start pushing discontent.
It’s not that complicated, it’s what happened in Hong Kong. You sound like a credulous liberal
You sound like :alex-no-supplements:
Better than a NPR lib who regurgitates NED propaganda
Again, reminding everyone here this woman did not die of “police brutality” and this entire crisis is FAKE
Oh man. You put fake in all caps, it must be true. Oh no, you called me an NPR lib, how will I ever recover? How many alts are you on at this point, Serbian MILF, I mean Zposter? What a life. Banned from Twitter, banned multiple times from this site. Maybe the world is trying to tell you something.
Whatever convoluted narrative you need to weave to ignore the plain and simple evidence in front of you that you fell for propaganda and refuse to admit it
Who’s this zposter? Sounds based
You're the expert in creating narratives. Your hatred for the US has blinded you to any other possibility other than a CIA plot. People who live in countries that are not under the thumb of the US can be upset with their leaders. They're allowed to demonstrate against those governments. Regardless of whether or not the woman's death was causes by police those are real people, with real grievances. Do you know and Iranians? I do. We've had long talks about how the revolution was co-opted by the Islamists and that there are many people in Iran who are not happy.
I’m not talking about them, I’m talking about you and the other chauvinists in this thread repeating lies. You are not allowed to join in on imperialist intrigues against nations your empire is at war with. That’s chauvinism.
Ok, and there’s nothing you can do to alter the situation in Iran except join the imperialist mob of your own empire
Western leftists want to imagine themselves as platonic universal creatures able to cast judgment from the heavens. You are a material, specific creature from a specific political region
So the people demonstrating aren't the problem, it's us western leftists besmirching the reputation of the Iranian moral police? Your main concern is the cops. Very cool.
The problem in this thread specifically is you and the other users repeating western lies and getting embroiled in pro-American imperialist intrigue.
My main concern is your social chauvinism and narrative bolstering of imperialism
So supporting the people in Iran that want to be free of the theocracy is pro-american social chauvinism? Self-determination is now imperialism? What?
Supporting it from America or the west, while your empire has its crosshairs trained on Iran, and making up stories - yes that is chauvinism
Yeah, I'm going to write my congress members today and tell them to invade Iran. Just like I did with Iraq.
Your assistance manufacturing consent has already been sufficient, thank you
Glad I could help.
Sounding like Alex Jones is when you consider American foreign policy since the turn of the 19th century
This is the same line that libs trout out every time there is a color revolution
So there can never be discontent amongst the people in a country that's antagonistic towards the United States?
I didn't say that, I just said you're quacking like a duck :duck-dance: so to speak
Again, it’s like you are reading off a chauvinist trot script
Trot CIA chauvinist comprador lib copy paste "reply"
:yes-sicko:
True there's a tendency to oversimplify overseas domestic conflict, and also that exact line, about the denying the agency of chosen dissenters has been specifically weaponized to give cover for regime change ops, most recently, to my recollection, in Bolivia and Cuba. You're still correct imo in this case
How are they correct in a case that’s literally made up? Video evidence shows she collapses due to a medical reason and there was no evidence of police brutality.
I have literally posted that video to this website in the time since that comment was written
https://twitter.com/presstv/status/1571443011816415232?s=46&t=vrblq8WEnUVQSbGilsPb1Q
It’s not just “something negative” it’s an entirely made-up narrative, right at a crucial moment in geopolitics
This is trot behavior and reeks of chauvinism
And you're pushing CIA supplied crisis actors in Iran of all places. I'm a trot, I'm an anarcho-bidenist, I'm a chauvinist, but at least I'm not on some Alex Jones level conspiracy bullshit.
I did a little googling on ISA, they come out of a Trotskyist org called CWI that split in 2019. The main faction eventually reformed into ISA, while the splitting faction accused the remainers of ignoring trade union agitation, and not incorporating class analysis in their work on advancing gender equality and LGBTQ rights.
Could be nothing, could be made-up, or the main faction could be following the wrecker playbook :shrug-outta-hecks: who can say