Okay, so background: I'm your average pro-gun fuck-the-police, fuck-trump zoomer honed by years of unsupervised internet access and I've just discovered this community and started lurking for a while. But I still hold extremely negative views on China, which I still think are justified.

"Which views?" I'll throw them out real quick: child labor! internet censorship! media censorship! anti-LGBTQ! uygher genocide? positive and pro war relations with russia! (because fuck putin)

So I get really confused anytime I see people expressing pro-China sentiments. Have I been spoonfed by the media or are some of these points actually justified?

  • LigmaGrindset [undecided]
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    2 years ago

    One thing I’d suggest is looking at the state of China when the PRC was established (in other words, when the communist experiment there began in earnest, in 1949) and now. Look at things like life expectancy, education, infrastructure, hunger, poverty, quality of life in all manner of speaking between then and now and you’ll see that what communists have achieved in China is nothing short of a miracle. It’s possible that some of the things you mentioned (LGBT issues in China is something I myself would need to learn more about) may be legitimate criticisms but to feel “extremely negatively” overall about a communist project that has saved countless millions of lives from capitalism because of a few areas where they still have some room for improvement is likely just the result of western propaganda. It’s worth noting how the Chinese people themselves feel about their government as well.