• robinn2
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    1 year ago

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    • aleph@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Assuming that it was even legitimate to begin with, which is a big if, a popular vote doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Assuming that it was even legitimate to begin with

        "Democracy is when the stupid foreigners vote how I think they should, otherwise it's not legitimate"

        doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

        If the people vote overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine, then that shows that Crimea isn't Ukraine's to relinquish or not. Liberals and abandoning democracy as soon as it becomes a rhetorical inconvenience for them, name a more iconic duo.

      • footfaults [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        plebecites that don't go my way are automatically illegitimate

        Oh look another imperialist

      • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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        1 year ago

        a "popular vote" doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

        Good you acknowledge that even the westoid cope for the Euromaidan coup is bullshit.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        If your aim is to prevent war, what is your solution for when the vast majority of people in one country want to join another, and vote accordingly?

        • aleph@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          A complicated situation certainly, but whatever the answer is, it is not "collude with a neighbouring foreign nation, allow them to invade, and provoke a military conflict."

          • footfaults [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            a complicated situation

            proceeds to construct the most disingenuous and untrue summary of the situation

            smuglord

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            So you don't have an answer, but "a vote followed by annexation" is unacceptable for some reason? Why reject a peaceful solution that results in people having the government they want to live under?

          • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Apparently it's "collude with local fascists and US MIC and allow them to provoke a military conflict and wage a proxy war with Russia"

            Pretty extreme answer for a situation you consider to be "complicated"

      • Redcat [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        territorial integrity takes precedence over popular will

        we agree taiwan isn't a country then

        • robinn2
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          1 year ago

          deleted by creator

          • Redcat [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            sounds like someone hasn't asked my friends in the Taiwanese Liberation Subreddit what their opinions are!