• aleph@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Assuming that it was even legitimate to begin with, which is a big if, a popular vote doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Assuming that it was even legitimate to begin with

      "Democracy is when the stupid foreigners vote how I think they should, otherwise it's not legitimate"

      doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

      If the people vote overwhelmingly to leave Ukraine, then that shows that Crimea isn't Ukraine's to relinquish or not. Liberals and abandoning democracy as soon as it becomes a rhetorical inconvenience for them, name a more iconic duo.

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      plebecites that don't go my way are automatically illegitimate

      Oh look another imperialist

    • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]
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      1 year ago

      a "popular vote" doesn't automatically legitimize relinquishing territory to a foreign nation.

      Good you acknowledge that even the westoid cope for the Euromaidan coup is bullshit.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      If your aim is to prevent war, what is your solution for when the vast majority of people in one country want to join another, and vote accordingly?

      • aleph@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        A complicated situation certainly, but whatever the answer is, it is not "collude with a neighbouring foreign nation, allow them to invade, and provoke a military conflict."

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          a complicated situation

          proceeds to construct the most disingenuous and untrue summary of the situation

          smuglord

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          So you don't have an answer, but "a vote followed by annexation" is unacceptable for some reason? Why reject a peaceful solution that results in people having the government they want to live under?

        • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Apparently it's "collude with local fascists and US MIC and allow them to provoke a military conflict and wage a proxy war with Russia"

          Pretty extreme answer for a situation you consider to be "complicated"

    • Redcat [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      territorial integrity takes precedence over popular will

      we agree taiwan isn't a country then

      • robinn2
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        1 year ago

        deleted by creator

        • Redcat [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          sounds like someone hasn't asked my friends in the Taiwanese Liberation Subreddit what their opinions are!