https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2135509

this is practically a child’s view of the world. good guy vs bad guy. Russia = bad, NATO = good. plus, someone should tell her she has it completely backwards: ending russia is kinda natos entire thing

  • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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    11 months ago

    I remember back in 2003, when liberals were able to call Bush out on his "with us or against us" shit. I swear something badly broke liberals (more than usual) in the last decade.

    • thomcat@midwest.social
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      11 months ago

      The establishment neocons and blue dog D's started being as loudly anti-Trump as possible, which grew the Democrat's tent. When your hammer is anti-Trump, anything Trump agrees with is a nail.

    • mamotromico@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      Looking from outside the US it was very clearly Trump. I’m sure there are other factors but it seems to be the major one.

      • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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        11 months ago

        I don't know about that. Trump accelerated it, but it was clearly present in the 2016 Democratic primaries, when no one was taking Trump seriously (and the Clinton campaign was promoting him).

        • mamotromico@lemmy.ml
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          11 months ago

          Oh sure, I didn’t mean to say that trump was the main catalyst or the first one, just that it was the strongest (that accelerated it, like you said). But yeah my previous comment wasn’t clear.