https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/2135509

this is practically a child’s view of the world. good guy vs bad guy. Russia = bad, NATO = good. plus, someone should tell her she has it completely backwards: ending russia is kinda natos entire thing

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    I wonder how Libyans feel about this:

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    NATO gave informal promises to Gorbachev to not expand eastward (Gorbachev was stupid to believe these promises and not get them in writing as formal, legally-binding promises)

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    The Soviet Union tried to join NATO in 1954 but wasn't allowed

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    Meanwhile NATO kept expanding

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    and including "former" nazis in its ranks

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    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Gorbachev was stupid to believe these promises and not get them in writing as formal, legally-binding promises

      If he had them as formal promises it wouldn't matter. You can just break international agreements what are they gonna do call a cop

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        Good point. I made that point less about the actual prevention of NATO expansion, which, yes, wasn't gonna happen either way, and more about NATO today taking advantage of Gorbachev's stupidity and thus having plausible deniability that claims were ever made in the first place, since none of those promises were formal, legally binding, and documented outside of recently-declassified British archives.