Oh I know all about all of those things, and they're valid things, everyone just seems to forget that this all started because Biden decided to take action to begin with. All the criticism is valid, I see no reason to omit any facts.
The administration chose the easy way first. (I don't see why they wouldn't have to be honest.) They have totally dropped the ball on keeping it a priority.
And if you read my comment, there's no opinions in it. Just a question sandwiched between two facts.
See, there's where we differ. You think they chose the "easy" option. This seems to imply some kind of desire to actually accomplish what they set out to do. We think they chose the option they knew would fail so they would have an excuse for not doing anything, which is what they wanted all along. The Democrats have a long history of weaseling their way out of anything remotely progressive. They're goddamn experts at using the system to accomplish nothing, only to then fundraise on it forever.
This one will join the dustbin of dead leftish policies, like a "Public Option," Increased minimum wage, and codifying Roe v Wade.
He did? Oh nice, that's why I'm still making payments on my student loans then huh. Thanks Biden real useful. Thanks for doing it in a way that was always going to get challenged by, and struck down by, the supreme court. I know you had many other methods you could have tried, but I'm glad you chose the one that would never actually happen. Super useful, really feeling like that promise has been kept.
By the way Biden still owes me $600 from his promise of "$1200 checks out the door immediately." Still waiting! I'm sure that's another promise that will be kept any day now. That's fine though, it's better to try one tiny thing that was never going to work and pretend like that means you did it rather than to actually fight for something. That's what we vote for, one piddly little attempt.
He could have tried to pack the court and made them stop him, you know, act like he was putting in the effort.
Why are we even so concerned about the fucking court, they barely have anyone with guns who answers to them, send in the troops and do something good with them for once.
If the justices do strike down the proposal, McCollum says the administration’s best alternative would be to look to the Higher Education Act (HEA). This 1965 law allows student loan relief for certain groups of borrowers, including those whose institutions have since closed.
McCollum points out that, under section 432(a) of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 1082(a), the Secretary is given the authority to modify, “… compromise, waive, or release any right, title, claim, lien, or demand, however acquired, including any equity or any right of redemption.”
Biden: "There's literally nothing I can do. I have to garnish your wages if you don't pay the debts I cancelled. Its entirely in the hands of the bureaucrats and judges I appointed. Sorry kid! But I will expect your vote in November."
Hasn't Biden been on the judiciary committee since the 80s? Didn't he vote a bunch of the current bench out of committee rather than blocking them, like McConnell has done?
They killed it dead as soon as they decided it was going to be Biden. Remember when Brandon was at the bottom of the polls at the begining of primary season and they had to drop the "sexy grandpa" and switch to "cool cars and aviators"?
Biden coming in with a strong 4th. Mayo Pete up there with a sizzling second place and The Klob's not looking too shabby in 3rd place either. And in 1st we have a commercial break no time left sorry stay tuned
The challenge that was made possible because of the Democrats and the Biden admin's intentional incompetence? They don't want to forgive student debt anymore than the Republicans do. Democrats are are just in the unfortunate position of playing the good cop and having a voting base that wants stuff like student debt forgiveness.
The President when SCOTUS says don't genocide native Americans: "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."
The President when the supreme Court says to keep students in debt-slavery: "Oh no, my hands are tied!"
It's the same good-cop-bad-cop theater that always placates libs. Meanwhile Trump publicly questioned the legitimacy of judges any time they didn't demonstrate loyalty.
The DNC doesn't want to fix this, they want to make a show of looking like they tried, but we're stopped by higher forces. Rule of law is sacrosanct when fucking over the working class.
oh shit oh fuck i tried to but "Supreme Court" wasn't listed on the ballot? wtf do i do my mom's going to be home in an hour and she is going to be PISSED about all my debt and lack of reproductive rights
oh, you didn't want to be saddled with a lifetime of debt? you should've thought about that at 17 when every adult in your life was pressuring you to take those loans!
cancel my debt asshole
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He literally did though. Do people forget that? It's not like he asked the trumpanzee court to pull an uno reverse on him.
The Biden administration has multiple avenues to tackle student loan debt and they purposefully chose the one with the greatest chance of failure
They also chose not to try and pack the court with friendly judges or even find an avenue that could bypass the supreme court entirely
They're also completely done with actually trying anything to actually live up to the initial promises they've made
It's literally Flanders' parents, but without the excuse of them being freaky beatniks
Now that's a well reasoned take. I actually agree with everything you said.
It's amazing what you can learn when you don't walk in here flinging shit. We're actually pretty cool and more than happy to explain our position.
o7 for humility and being open to information that contradicts your pre conceived notions.
Oh I know all about all of those things, and they're valid things, everyone just seems to forget that this all started because Biden decided to take action to begin with. All the criticism is valid, I see no reason to omit any facts.
The administration chose the easy way first. (I don't see why they wouldn't have to be honest.) They have totally dropped the ball on keeping it a priority.
And if you read my comment, there's no opinions in it. Just a question sandwiched between two facts.
See, there's where we differ. You think they chose the "easy" option. This seems to imply some kind of desire to actually accomplish what they set out to do. We think they chose the option they knew would fail so they would have an excuse for not doing anything, which is what they wanted all along. The Democrats have a long history of weaseling their way out of anything remotely progressive. They're goddamn experts at using the system to accomplish nothing, only to then fundraise on it forever.
This one will join the dustbin of dead leftish policies, like a "Public Option," Increased minimum wage, and codifying Roe v Wade.
no more half measures walter
Ffs this account gets funnier every time I see it lmao
yea yea yea it's all rotating villains it's this person's fault not that person's blah blah
edit: functional country!!! checks and balances!!! i fucking love it here!!!! nothing good ever happens!
He did? Oh nice, that's why I'm still making payments on my student loans then huh. Thanks Biden real useful. Thanks for doing it in a way that was always going to get challenged by, and struck down by, the supreme court. I know you had many other methods you could have tried, but I'm glad you chose the one that would never actually happen. Super useful, really feeling like that promise has been kept.
By the way Biden still owes me $600 from his promise of "$1200 checks out the door immediately." Still waiting! I'm sure that's another promise that will be kept any day now. That's fine though, it's better to try one tiny thing that was never going to work and pretend like that means you did it rather than to actually fight for something. That's what we vote for, one piddly little attempt.
Oh by the way I think you dropped this
He could have tried to pack the court and made them stop him, you know, act like he was putting in the effort.
Why are we even so concerned about the fucking court, they barely have anyone with guns who answers to them, send in the troops and do something good with them for once.
So they could just do it, but won't, at least they're not blaming the parliamentarian for this one
Biden: "There's literally nothing I can do. I have to garnish your wages if you don't pay the debts I cancelled. Its entirely in the hands of the bureaucrats and judges I appointed. Sorry kid! But I will expect your vote in November."
Blame the supreme Court and the assholes that brought the challenge to the supreme Court.
Key members of the progressive caucus, moderate progressivss like Ro Khanna even, were calling on Biden to expand the court with liberals.
Leftist voices, even socdem mags like Jacobin were calling for him to find alternative avenues.
Biden could have canceled student loans if he'd wanted to. He chose not to.
Hasn't Biden been on the judiciary committee since the 80s? Didn't he vote a bunch of the current bench out of committee rather than blocking them, like McConnell has done?
Famously he pushed through Clarence Thomas despite the extremely credible sexual harassments claims from Anita Hill.
He tried to "apologize" to her in 2020 IIRC as a publicity stunt but she didn't find it satisfactory.
They killed it dead as soon as they decided it was going to be Biden. Remember when Brandon was at the bottom of the polls at the begining of primary season and they had to drop the "sexy grandpa" and switch to "cool cars and aviators"?
Biden coming in with a strong 4th. Mayo Pete up there with a sizzling second place and The Klob's not looking too shabby in 3rd place either. And in 1st we have a commercial break no time left sorry stay tuned
Lol, lmao even
Jesus fucking Christ. It's NEVER smol bean bidens fault is it?
The challenge that was made possible because of the Democrats and the Biden admin's intentional incompetence? They don't want to forgive student debt anymore than the Republicans do. Democrats are are just in the unfortunate position of playing the good cop and having a voting base that wants stuff like student debt forgiveness.
The President when SCOTUS says don't genocide native Americans: "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."
The President when the supreme Court says to keep students in debt-slavery: "Oh no, my hands are tied!"
It's the same good-cop-bad-cop theater that always placates libs. Meanwhile Trump publicly questioned the legitimacy of judges any time they didn't demonstrate loyalty.
The DNC doesn't want to fix this, they want to make a show of looking like they tried, but we're stopped by higher forces. Rule of law is sacrosanct when fucking over the working class.
Roosevelt didn't even need to pack the court, he just needed to threaten it
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I blame everyone with any power, because it's a complete systemic failure going back decades, like everything else is.
#vote
oh shit oh fuck i tried to
but "Supreme Court" wasn't listed on the ballot? wtf do i do my mom's going to be home in an hour and she is going to be PISSED about all my debt and lack of reproductive rights
oh, you didn't want to be saddled with a lifetime of debt? you should've thought about that at 17 when every adult in your life was pressuring you to take those loans!
If only Biden could have done something about the courts! Like pack them or something :thonk: