no need to write an essay or anything

some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I am a succdem for wanting the destruction of the evil empire by any means necessary? Up to and including not caring about the optics of liberal infighting?

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        If he had won a seccond term AOC would have gotten M4A passed in congress.

        No, you're a succdem because you think AOC was so close to making a real, material improvent to people's lives, if only a certain vote had gone very slightly different.

        I know you think you've landed on this super smart galaxy brained method of accomplishing your various political goals through voteing, but the truth is, the game was rigged from the start. The system has given you two levers, do you really think they can't make sure both of those levers lead to acceptable results?

        • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          They can. That is why trump didn't win a seccond term. He was the first taste of anything not approved of by the machine people got. He only got to do it because he was still basically the same as any other conservative. However just the notion that the world could be other than it is was too much for many people to bear. A seccond consecutive term would have caused so much psychic strain that liberals might have developed something resembling a indea. Now that we have had time to cool off I think a seccond trump term would be largely meaningless. Don't act like m4a wouldn't just get defanged the seccond the heat died down anyway

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Lol, what a perspective.

            Biden didn't win by a huge margin, there's a real chance Trump could have won. If you think the elections are rigged to the point that they can just pick who wins at that point, then there's no point in voting at all. If you think it was a real contest, then you're saying that the one of the options the system has provided you with is the key to dismantling the system, which I find absurd, pure cope.

            Even an eventually defanged M4A would mean at least a big short term difference in a lot of people's lives, and a ton of lost profits for the insurance companies. And it's nonsense to say that they could achieve it but that it would be impossible to preserve. Just keep voting for Trump and Trump-like figures! If it worked to create it, why wouldn't it work to preserve it?

            This is just stupid contrarian nonsense to try and own the libs. What no theory does to a MFer.

            • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Contradictions are increasign the system is losing power. Eventually something might matter. If the conditions has been as I stated in the counterfqctual then it would be diffrent. It isn't though. Trump was a contingency due to changing technology our geriatric system wasn't ready for. It has since adapted. Stuff like m4a fits well into the category of things the system already knows how to handle.

              • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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                1 year ago

                I stg people come up with the weirdest shit when they realize the system is fucked but still can't think beyond the options they're provided. One of these levers must work, so I just need to keep thinking and thinking until I figure out some way to make some connection, no matter how tenuous or unlikely, between one of the levers and my desired outcome. Lots of people do that and they all come out with equally bizarre takes in every direction, basically just end up being random noise. Might as well just go full PatSoc at that point.

                You really need to read more to avoid falling into that kind of trap. If you haven't read it, Blackshirts and Reds is a great place to start.