no need to write an essay or anything
some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony
no need to write an essay or anything
some libs and baby leftists are kinda baffled by the trump banter here and don't know what's serious and what's irony
2 day old account so could you clarify? Hexbears are not incapable of racism, sexism, and other bigotry, people have been banned for it in the past, but
you're painting with a pretty broad brush here, essentially characterizing the entire site as racist, and your edit also calls us a hivemind. From a new account that's kinda sus.
might be a cracker
Mods can ban me if they want. They know what the deal is.
I would like to know what the deal is
There is a group of 15 ish I would guess people who who like to stir shit by posting racist stuff because they know it will set me off and cause a scene. It happens fairly regularly.
You are right that I was painting a little broadly.
This is all still pretty vague, can you give an example?
If you were in new at all in the past week there were numerous posts of people pushing the line to see how far they could take the bigotry and slurs. I get we're all doing a fun thing acting like it didn't happen but yeah. I'm not digging through people's post histories.
Edit: Because someone outside looking in might be wondering what is going on.
https://hexbear.net/post/375645
There were several posts like this. I had to throw a shit fit and put a target on my back to get the post removed. They think its very funny to pretend like this didn't happen.
So again I will restate: If anyone wants any non-hivemind answers to any questions, I'm happy to oblige.
Maybe I wasn't in new in the past week because I didn't see this. I think it's weird for a new account to vaguepost about hexbear bigotry in a thread where the title implies it will be shown to outsiders. I don't want to dismiss what you're saying in case you're telling the truth, but it's pretty suspicious, and it would be less suspicious if you could give any details at all.
*per the edit, yeah alright fair lol, fuck cumtown
I think pretty much all of us are in the dark. can you link to some examples?
I think the post itself was what malingeringwastrel took issue with. If you read past the first sentence it starts to sound pretty flippant and weird.
Even if it was, there's still no slurs?
https://hexbear.net/post/414803
this also doesn't include slurs? it's a joke about the slur filter. you literally can't post slurs through it and, as the admins noted in the thread, if you try, you'll get banned because they log people who post slurs removed by the filter. I've reported people who have used spacing to post a slur through it and the mods immediately deleted the post.
edit:
also what's this about? what target on your back?
I can interpret the thread innocently but I can also see where malingeringwastrel would start to see something between the lines if there were a bunch of posts like that in a short period, which is what they are claiming. It makes sense to be suspicious of a new account but I can also see where someone genuine might be coming from.
oh no I get the suspicion, I was also a little sus of those posts. it's just weird to make more out of them than is actually in the threads, especially on a days old account.
I edited to clarify, I meant "it makes sense to be suspicious of a new account but I can also see where malingeringwastrel might be coming from"
but yeah, pretty much. The posts are kinda sus, and new account vagueposting was also kinda sus, but tentatively I think malingering wastrel is genuine
yeah, fully agree.
Again what slurs?
All I see are people joking about crackkkers, please tell me that's not what you're upset about
no that's not what they're upset about. Playing around with the slur filter was a little weird. I think the intent of the thread was just to celebrate the slur filter, but -- and, I don't want to put words in their mouth lol, but I'm just trying to take the burden off them having to explain with no backup -- I think the ambiguity was kinda uncomfortable for this user, like "do some of these people just want to say slurs and have the slur filter cover it for them?" and they had seen some other kinda weird posts lately, and it started to feel like a pattern.
They're not saying "people are joking about the slur filter in a way that makes me suspicious" they're saying:
Sorry, I'm open to the idea that racist shit is said on HB and even that some of it doesn't get reported and removed, but the implication here (by someone with a 2-day old Hexbear account, on a Lemmy.ml thread) that there is a problem with HB users being actively racist. If you want to throw such a serious accusation like that around you need better evidence than this
Yeah I know what you mean. I find the user credible enough that at minimum I don't want to see them bullied or ganged up on, but I agree it's a little sus from a new account. I don't think we're gonna resolve the ambiguity either, since I get the impression this user doesn't have the energy to prosecute a case and dig for more examples. At the end of the day I'd rather err on the side of being receptive to complaints that might be difficult or uncomfortable for the user to articulate, at the risk of letting a vagueposting wrecker slide, as long as the potential wrecker's not too bad.
There is no ambiguity in this case. We are very receptive to the idea that there is unaddressed racism on this site because we're fundamentally antiracist. That why we want to see evidence of the claims.
There is literally no reason to accept a claim like this sight unseen, every exchange on this site has been documented and can be retrieved. The only racism in either of the pieces of evidence they've supplied are racist against white people, what other reasonable conclusion is there here?
Oh uh, the ambiguity I meant is whether the commenter is sincere or not. I happen to think they are
but idk for surepretty confident, seeing their post historyYeah this is also kinda weird and flippant, a pattern of posts like this would bug me too
I appreciate it. I'm literally not trying to be a pain in the ass I just absolutely cannot abide bigotry. This isn't my first rodeo going through this. The staff needs to decide if ironic bigotry is expressly allowed and stop being cowards and say it, or they need to have the mods start removing it.
yeah, stick something in the rules like "no weird cumtown ironic racism shit, it's still racism"
people shouldn't have to guess