"Some of you may be willing to die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" but unironically

Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285

  • jackmarxist [any]
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    10 months ago

    Not speaking for everyone here but an ideal outcome would be:

    1. Peace treaty
    2. Russia gets to keep crimea because there is 0 chance that Russians will give up Crimea. Also Ukraine can no longer try to start a drought there. The donbass gets an option to stay in Ukraine with actual guarantee that Ukraine will not try to bomb them again, independence or joining Russia depending on vote.
    3. The other two oblasts go back to Ukraine as long as Ukraine doesn't prosecute anyone for "collaboration" like they did with garbage collectors and other civil servants in Kherson.
    4. Removal of Nazis from government positions in Ukraine. Destruction of Nazi paramilitaries. Removing ban from Socialism and banning nazism instead.
    5. Putin dies or something and hopefully Russia doesn't collapse.

    Further outcomes would be that Ukraine doesn't pay back the loans to the west because they simply can't afford to. I have no idea how they'll manage post war even if they win or lose. Worker rights in Ukraine have been demolished and the country has been sold to Blackrock and Co.. And with Ukraine sending their working age population to the meat grinder, the future becomes bleaker every day.

    • aport@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      Thanks for your response. I don't entirely agree with all of your points but I can respect the thought you've put into the situation.

      • jackmarxist [any]
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        10 months ago

        No problem. It's Always nice to have someone willing to participate in open minded discussion.

        • Adkml [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Hey just a heads up that lib you complimented on having a nice discussion just told me I was huffing copium for saying Russia was winning because they've taken and held all the territory they stated they wanted to before the war