The -oid suffix, as an insult, has a long history of ableism and racism. Maybe you should work on being better instead of projecting your bigotry by appropriating Marxist-flavored gotchas
Im looking through several hate speech websites and I'm not seeing a single thing about what you saying, anyway. Just a single reddit post (ofc) with no linked information.
I am sorry (to myself I guess) for using bigoted language (... to myself? like who am I hurting here besides using language that targets me) and I would love for more information on the subject. If I'm wrong, im happy to take the L and throw such language away.
but here revised:
You are a fake leftist that simps for imperialist and colonialist organizations founded in collaboration with nazis. You are useless to the worldwide movement and no matter how hard you work, you will be doing so in the wrong direction, and would be as useless as you are right now. You use problems of people far worse off than yourself as a shield to help ignore everything you do wrong when you should be using it to look at yourself. You "don't care how anyone identifies" until it is used against you. You ignore the actual fascists and racists because they would not harm you, and you know it. Go take your nonsense to someone who would actually care, you sorry excuse for a leftist. Your liberalism will never be accepted anywhere that has anything more than surface level political knowledge, and that is completely fine by me.
You are a fake leftist that simps for imperialist and colonialist organizations founded in collaboration with nazis. You are useless to the worldwide movement and no matter how hard you work, you will be doing so in the wrong direction, and would be as useless as you are right now. You use problems of people far worse off than yourself as a shield to help ignore everything you do wrong when you should be using it to look at yourself. You "don't care how anyone identifies" until it is used against you. You ignore the actual fascists and racists because they would not harm you, and you know it. Go take your nonsense to someone who would actually care, you sorry excuse for a leftist. Your liberalism will never be accepted anywhere that has anything more than surface level political knowledge, and that is completely fine by me.
that gives a 404 error message with a picture of nixon.
Idk what's up with your browser then it's hatebase.org/vocabulary/removed
Don't act like your infantile scrawl deserved anything but an equally infantile response
Edit: Since others can't see the link, suffice to say that -oid insults are based on outdated words for people with downs syndrome, and those of obsolete race "science."
Obviously the -oid suffix can also mean "like," but that is not the context in which it is used as an insult.
Ah, well maybe that's why the link wouldn't work in the first place? Oh well, thanks for explaining. Edited to provide some context for those that can't use the link
Keep up? You mean like stay on the page and hit refresh a bunch to stay up to date?
And how are you acting condescending right now? You had this whole long argument because you believed the -oid suffix held the meaning of a slur that used it. You looked up the thing you already thought instead of looking up the thing you were encountering.
you believed the -oid suffix held the meaning of a slur that used it.
Not what I said. I'm saying it's used in reference to multiple slurs because it is. Unless calling me a natoid is supposed imply that I'm like NATO, but it's not. It's meant to imply that people who support NATO are mentally deficient, and so it's a reference to a slur
Here's a bare-bones answer to get whether or not you're a right-winger or Left-winger. I emphasize again, this is a bare-bones answer that's leaving out a lot of other stuff.
Who should have ownership over the means of production, or Capital Goods if you want to use non-marxist lingo. If you say the working class should have ownership over the means of production then you're left-wing. If you say capitalists should have ownership over the means of production then you're right-wing.
Yeah I can get behind this, and I'd say you're right that it's the bare-bones definition of the economic left vs right divide.
But then you have people who will look at market socialists, anarchists, or some other brand of leftism and call them secret fascists or something like that. It's my experience (and yours may differ) that MLs are eager to insist that theirs is the only way and dismiss the rest.
Not all MLs are this dogmatic. But when a leftist is this dogmatic, they always seem to be ML
fake Marxists who ignore the basics of marxist? heck yeah we hate them. I've yet to see any fake anarchists or MLs on hexbear that werent immediately banned tho
But then you have people who will look at market socialists, anarchists, or some other brand of leftism and call them secret fascists or something like that. It's my experience (and yours may differ) that MLs are eager to insist that theirs is the only way and dismiss the rest
What you're describing is the analysis of Marxism-Leninism on other socialist tendencies based off of the historical materialist end results of their respective ideologies. A very simple example of this would be is how Marxists would prod anarchists as being more idealist over materialist over the fact that the more idealist members of the anarchist faction advocate for the immediate and total abolishment of the penal system can't reconciliate the fact that anarchists reestablished the penal system during the Spanish Civil War on their turf due to the material conditions they faced forcing them to make that decision. There's a lot more to this discussion that's being left out with plenty of worthwhile perspectives from all Left factions on the civil war in regards to this and much more.
It's in this regard that marxists will ruthlessly critique all ideological threads and each other all in the name of finding the most materially realistic path to Socialism within their respective home countries - and historically, revolution is the only means to the goal of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and a scientific socialist society.
There is not a valid distinction between economic left and political left, or economic right and political right.
There is the left and its various tendencies and ideologies (anarchists, communists, MLs, etc.) And the right and its various tendencies (liberals, conservatives, libertarians, fascists etc.)
Which sounds great until you realize that many of them define right wing nut jobs as anyone who's not a Marxist-Leninist
Edit: LMAO exhibit A below me. "We're not sectarian, they're just not real leftists." Yeah guys, you're doing exactly what I said
You're allowed to be most branches of socialist or anarchist without us considering you right wing, we are a non-sectarian space.
In much of human behavior there tends to be a divide between what we say and what we do. This is no exception
we are highly anti sectarian, youre just a natoid anarcho bidenist, not a leftist
The -oid suffix, as an insult, has a long history of ableism and racism. Maybe you should work on being better instead of projecting your bigotry by appropriating Marxist-flavored gotchas
Im an autistic trans person, but guess some NT Cishet would know more about bigotry than me
I don't care how anyone identifies, you're using bigoted language
You're telling me huh
Im looking through several hate speech websites and I'm not seeing a single thing about what you saying, anyway. Just a single reddit post (ofc) with no linked information.
I am sorry (to myself I guess) for using bigoted language (... to myself? like who am I hurting here besides using language that targets me) and I would love for more information on the subject. If I'm wrong, im happy to take the L and throw such language away.
but here revised:
You are a fake leftist that simps for imperialist and colonialist organizations founded in collaboration with nazis. You are useless to the worldwide movement and no matter how hard you work, you will be doing so in the wrong direction, and would be as useless as you are right now. You use problems of people far worse off than yourself as a shield to help ignore everything you do wrong when you should be using it to look at yourself. You "don't care how anyone identifies" until it is used against you. You ignore the actual fascists and racists because they would not harm you, and you know it. Go take your nonsense to someone who would actually care, you sorry excuse for a leftist. Your liberalism will never be accepted anywhere that has anything more than surface level political knowledge, and that is completely fine by me.
This is just one example
LMAO!!!!!!!!
that gives a 404 error message with a picture of nixon.
And wow, got me, lmao
how old are you? You shouldn't be online so young.
i think the slur filter is catching the end of the url
Idk what's up with your browser then it's hatebase.org/vocabulary/removed
Don't act like your infantile scrawl deserved anything but an equally infantile response
Edit: Since others can't see the link, suffice to say that -oid insults are based on outdated words for people with downs syndrome, and those of obsolete race "science."
Obviously the -oid suffix can also mean "like," but that is not the context in which it is used as an insult.
aight nope you've gone redditor, bye
Oh no baby was wrong and can't handle it
Okay dude
Tasty hexbear tears
seriously log off my guy this is sad
Nah thanks, bigot
too stupid to understand that you were completely owned in that exchange
Or - if you use your brain you'll realize it - vomiting personal insults means absolutely nothing when the other is anonymous online
But they weren't personal insults. They're insults towards your political ideology.
My assumed political ideology thus totally vapid
what?
we have a slur filter with a bad case of sremovedhorpe problem, so we see hatebase.org/vocabulary/removed
Ah, well maybe that's why the link wouldn't work in the first place? Oh well, thanks for explaining. Edited to provide some context for those that can't use the link
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/-oid
Already been addressed, keep up
Keep up? You mean like stay on the page and hit refresh a bunch to stay up to date?
And how are you acting condescending right now? You had this whole long argument because you believed the -oid suffix held the meaning of a slur that used it. You looked up the thing you already thought instead of looking up the thing you were encountering.
Not what I said. I'm saying it's used in reference to multiple slurs because it is. Unless calling me a natoid is supposed imply that I'm like NATO, but it's not. It's meant to imply that people who support NATO are mentally deficient, and so it's a reference to a slur
okay yeah I can see that
Actually it is, we enforce our anti-sectarian rules.
You got a trite truism for every time you say shit without investigating it and are told you're wrong about it?
Here's a bare-bones answer to get whether or not you're a right-winger or Left-winger. I emphasize again, this is a bare-bones answer that's leaving out a lot of other stuff.
Who should have ownership over the means of production, or Capital Goods if you want to use non-marxist lingo. If you say the working class should have ownership over the means of production then you're left-wing. If you say capitalists should have ownership over the means of production then you're right-wing.
Yeah I can get behind this, and I'd say you're right that it's the bare-bones definition of the economic left vs right divide.
But then you have people who will look at market socialists, anarchists, or some other brand of leftism and call them secret fascists or something like that. It's my experience (and yours may differ) that MLs are eager to insist that theirs is the only way and dismiss the rest.
Not all MLs are this dogmatic. But when a leftist is this dogmatic, they always seem to be ML
fake Marxists who ignore the basics of marxist? heck yeah we hate them. I've yet to see any fake anarchists or MLs on hexbear that werent immediately banned tho
What you're describing is the analysis of Marxism-Leninism on other socialist tendencies based off of the historical materialist end results of their respective ideologies. A very simple example of this would be is how Marxists would prod anarchists as being more idealist over materialist over the fact that the more idealist members of the anarchist faction advocate for the immediate and total abolishment of the penal system can't reconciliate the fact that anarchists reestablished the penal system during the Spanish Civil War on their turf due to the material conditions they faced forcing them to make that decision. There's a lot more to this discussion that's being left out with plenty of worthwhile perspectives from all Left factions on the civil war in regards to this and much more.
It's in this regard that marxists will ruthlessly critique all ideological threads and each other all in the name of finding the most materially realistic path to Socialism within their respective home countries - and historically, revolution is the only means to the goal of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat and a scientific socialist society.
There is not a valid distinction between economic left and political left, or economic right and political right.
There is the left and its various tendencies and ideologies (anarchists, communists, MLs, etc.) And the right and its various tendencies (liberals, conservatives, libertarians, fascists etc.)
If your upset about your ideological proximity to conservatives, it sounds like a you problem
The people I see deploying this take the most are the same people who think Democrats are communists