I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.
also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.
Which libs realized anything about Iraq?
They didn't change their minds, they just went from believing thing a to believing thing b without ever passing through a midpoint, it is an instantaneous process with no regard for prior conditions
I mean I agree, but thats what I'm referring to. I agree that no critical thinking was involved for most of them, they just shifted when the narrative shifted, but my question was if the same thing is going to happen with Ukraine or not.
Ahh. I think we're starting to see the shift now as things continue to go badly, and the west pivots to damage control and excuses for why they're still superior