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  • jaeme
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    1 year ago

    I don't like how it starts off with the sensationalist "millions of people will disappear". A lot of this stuff is undergrad environmental science but packaged in an orientalist way to drive clicks.

    Also they will never ever confront capitalism lmao. Don't want to anger their donors.

    • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      Millions of people are disappearing right now due to dying but when I make videos lamenting it I get called an antinatalist and then told to kill myself.

      • stewie3128 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I don't understand the anti-antinatalist stuff. Having a kid is literally the worst thing you can do to the environment. Shouldn't we reckon with that?

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Having a kid is literally the worst thing you can do to the environment.

          If you're equating a random child born anywhere in the world with a billionaire's carbon and pollution imprint, that's a staggering false equivalency.

          • stewie3128 [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            The audience on Lemmy is self-evidently overwhelmingly from developed nations, where most of the ecological harm per-capita is done.

              • stewie3128 [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                But by simply subtracting the number of kids I'd otherwise have by one, I'm preventing 21 tons of CO2 from entering the atmosphere every year.

                https://www.pawprint.eco/eco-blog/average-carbon-footprint-globally

                There is simply no way to make enough lifestyle changes to offset that. I'd have to live car-free for 55 years to offset just a single year of a theoretical child's existence... and that kid is going to live for 70-100 years.

            • windowlicker [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              now compare the emissions of having a child to military activities and billionaires using their jets constantly for like 30 minute trips

              • stewie3128 [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Obviously those things are on a different scale, but there are 3.7 million children born in the US alone every year.

                That means it would take 193 million people -per year - switching to an entirely car-free lifestyle to negate that.

                Or 400 million people per year switching to a plant-based diet.

                Billionaires and the military doing bad stuff doesn't justify the ecological harm of enlarging the human population.

        • SkeletorJesus [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Reckon with human life itself being bad for the environment? No, I don't think we should reckon with that, because the only actionable conclusions from that assumption are "we should make being alive less bad for the environment" where you end up on the same page as everybody else or "we should all die."

          • Pili [any, any]
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            1 year ago

            Yes but those 100 companies are made up of adult babies. Babies are evil.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'm kind of antinatalist, but where the child is born makes a huge difference. A single USian is practically the same carbon footprint as some whole villages in Africa, SE Asia, and elsewhere

          But also 70% of carbon emissions are from 100ish companies, and "carbon footprint" was coined by ExxonMobil Mobile to deflect from this fact. Or maybe it was Shell.