Even without the greater context of the post, its so tiring to hear people with ADHD spoken about like they're some kind of hedonism bot without greater executive control. I live a daily life where I constantly forget what I'm doing, deal with the shame of not being able to focus on tasks like my peers, and overall start at the back of the pack in any metaphorical race and need to play catch up.
Our current society is optimized in a way that exacerbates ADHD symptoms sure, but making an exaggerated joke about undoing this societal damage isn't some "hexbear hates people with adhd" take.
There's some deeply embedded infantilization that occurs in discussions about people with neurodiverse disorders that effect executive function. It's one thing to have an explanation and identify why things take place. Its something else to take a leap and hard-associate the overuse/abuse of the most widespread device in human history with ADHD as if its some kind of cultural right to melt your neurons into a slurry with a constant flow of the garbage that is pushed on social media and beyond.
And, at any point, did you ever consider that my response could have been exaggerated as well?
No I did not an I'm sorry for that.
Was the original comment you responded to edited? I notice you keep using "reeducation" when the comment said "rehabilitation", which might be cause for why we're arguing.
Cease
Respected, have a good day, sorry to be annoying and fighting for a debate.
I was a bit rude too, possibly because I hold some self-resentment myself, but also I've had to derive my own methods for dealing with things, and tend to feel like we don't talk the "what next"s enough.
It feels good to be given the space to be a bit special and have needs accounted for, but i've found it all goes out the window when you need to go out and do things. Every time I've given myself that space, I take it for granted and have an even harder time participating in "normal" spaces, which hurts even more than if I just kept up the momentum. I can't expect the people I meet in day to day life to have a grasp on my condition. They've got other stuff going on. The "normal" spaces will always exist to an extent. Someone working 10 hours a day out of the back of a van won't have the energy or care to educate themselves on conditions unless its personal.
Like I think as a community we should have more people offering help to break certain comfort-based cycles. Addiction is the same for anything, and you need to want to break the cycle to get better. I don't think we should shame people for being addicted, but we should still encourage improvement. When I see sentiments that are basically "its okay" without the second step, it makes me feel frustrated because having a safe space wont help me the next time I piss someone off for being a little too autistic. I need to catch it ahead of time and understand myself better to interface with the rest of the world.
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Even without the greater context of the post, its so tiring to hear people with ADHD spoken about like they're some kind of hedonism bot without greater executive control. I live a daily life where I constantly forget what I'm doing, deal with the shame of not being able to focus on tasks like my peers, and overall start at the back of the pack in any metaphorical race and need to play catch up.
Our current society is optimized in a way that exacerbates ADHD symptoms sure, but making an exaggerated joke about undoing this societal damage isn't some "hexbear hates people with adhd" take.
There's some deeply embedded infantilization that occurs in discussions about people with neurodiverse disorders that effect executive function. It's one thing to have an explanation and identify why things take place. Its something else to take a leap and hard-associate the overuse/abuse of the most widespread device in human history with ADHD as if its some kind of cultural right to melt your neurons into a slurry with a constant flow of the garbage that is pushed on social media and beyond.
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No I did not an I'm sorry for that.
Was the original comment you responded to edited? I notice you keep using "reeducation" when the comment said "rehabilitation", which might be cause for why we're arguing.
Respected, have a good day, sorry to be annoying and fighting for a debate.
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I was a bit rude too, possibly because I hold some self-resentment myself, but also I've had to derive my own methods for dealing with things, and tend to feel like we don't talk the "what next"s enough.
It feels good to be given the space to be a bit special and have needs accounted for, but i've found it all goes out the window when you need to go out and do things. Every time I've given myself that space, I take it for granted and have an even harder time participating in "normal" spaces, which hurts even more than if I just kept up the momentum. I can't expect the people I meet in day to day life to have a grasp on my condition. They've got other stuff going on. The "normal" spaces will always exist to an extent. Someone working 10 hours a day out of the back of a van won't have the energy or care to educate themselves on conditions unless its personal.
Like I think as a community we should have more people offering help to break certain comfort-based cycles. Addiction is the same for anything, and you need to want to break the cycle to get better. I don't think we should shame people for being addicted, but we should still encourage improvement. When I see sentiments that are basically "its okay" without the second step, it makes me feel frustrated because having a safe space wont help me the next time I piss someone off for being a little too autistic. I need to catch it ahead of time and understand myself better to interface with the rest of the world.
Wholesome moment at the end of a frustrating interaction
I always want to keep it wholesome here. I don't want my bear site to become a bad site.
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