This vibes anecdotally with my local chapter. In the face of overwhelming membership solidarity with Palestinian liberation, the social imperialist reactionaries are purging themselves.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Oh, so the organization can just be turned demcent without this factoring in? If your thesis had the slightest bearing, you'd think the policy would be oriented toward reconciliation for the sake of big tent politics instead of just terminating chapters, since you can't merely make the whole org demcent with the wave of a wand, nor can you be ideologically neutral in the developmental stages, meaning any attempt at demcent can be very easily cast as splitting.

    • captcha [any]
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      1 year ago

      At what point was I advocating for making DSA demcent? The rule prevents any demcents from making a coup attempt so being a hazard for them if they succeed is a positive. Its like a corporate poison pill clause enforcing the holy command: Thou shalt not splinter the org.

      PS

      If your thesis had the slightest bearing

      Tone down the debate bro energy

        • captcha [any]
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          1 year ago

          In the fact that it is not demcent and has rules to prevent it from becoming demcent. You can still be demcent and be in DSA. There are literal demcent caucuses in the DSA. The article is basically the author complaining about those caucuses.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            You have still agreed to what I am saying, aside from an apparent equivocation between groups having demcent ideology versus being structurally demcent. Can you point to a segment of the DSA that is openly structurally demcent and not a 5 person book club?

            • captcha [any]
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              1 year ago

              You didn't define "anti-demcent" and it sounded loaded. Again, turn down the debate bro vibes.

              There are full caucuses in the DSA that are demcent. Either ideologically or structurally I dont know. Few have their own websites and fewer still openly talk about their internal structure (for reference even the PSL doesn't say its demcent on its about page). But there's many guides to all the different caucuses.

              • https://reformandrevolution.org/2023/07/21/whos-who-in-dsa-a-guide-to-dsa-caucuses-2/
              • https://socialistcall.com/2023/07/27/dsa-caucuses-guide-2023/
              • https://www.tempestmag.org/2021/06/dsa-chapter-delegate-results/

              The last one is interesting because it shows you the makeup of the 2021 convention delegates. If you scroll through you'll see at least one delegate from Socialist Alternative which is an external demcent org. Reform and Revolution is allegedly a breakaway from Socialist Alternative so its probably also demcent.