This is bringing out something that occurred to me the second time I played the game and met Joyce. She really is the liberal of the game.
When you meet Joyce early on, she is, at that stage of the game, one of the most directly helpful NPCs. She talks to you respectfully instead of (rightfully) calling you a pig, she makes jokes with you, she's even willing to discuss reality with you, and some of her most likeable lines come out during that little philosophy talk. She's got an education, and she clearly likes a deep conversation. She even shows that she has a little perspective on her position in the world, and she has some sympathy for the failed revolution and for the conditions that necessitated it. Wow what an intelligent and reasonable mature woman she is!
And also shes a board member of the company that hired a fascist death squad that has literally literally no experience outside of committing gruesome sexual and physical cruelties on colonized peoples, to "deal with" a workers strike.
She's very sneaky about her responsibility and involvement in that stuff, its easy to overlook while she makes jokes about being a great wyrm upon a hoard of the worlds wealth or something, what that actually involves.
Right, it's why introducing her early is so effective. Like most people, Harry wakes into a world order established by people like her, and if you literally only take her and the world at face value, she just seems like a proper lady, when she is actually a key player in the horror of it all
This is bringing out something that occurred to me the second time I played the game and met Joyce. She really is the liberal of the game.
When you meet Joyce early on, she is, at that stage of the game, one of the most directly helpful NPCs. She talks to you respectfully instead of (rightfully) calling you a pig, she makes jokes with you, she's even willing to discuss reality with you, and some of her most likeable lines come out during that little philosophy talk. She's got an education, and she clearly likes a deep conversation. She even shows that she has a little perspective on her position in the world, and she has some sympathy for the failed revolution and for the conditions that necessitated it. Wow what an intelligent and reasonable mature woman she is!
Try and ask her for money, though?
NOPE
And also shes a board member of the company that hired a fascist death squad that has literally literally no experience outside of committing gruesome sexual and physical cruelties on colonized peoples, to "deal with" a workers strike.
She's very sneaky about her responsibility and involvement in that stuff, its easy to overlook while she makes jokes about being a great wyrm upon a hoard of the worlds wealth or something, what that actually involves.
Right, it's why introducing her early is so effective. Like most people, Harry wakes into a world order established by people like her, and if you literally only take her and the world at face value, she just seems like a proper lady, when she is actually a key player in the horror of it all
Lots of liberals think that by "ironically" embracing what monsters they are that it makes them less monstrous.
Thesis: Ask her for lots of money
Antithesis: Don't ask her for money
Synthesis: Ask her for just enough money to cover repairs to the Whirling In Rags room and a stay for the night
She will give you money if it's a small amount. Although what I got from that exchange is she interprets it as a bribe.
Yeah and doing so involves almost turning yourself inside-out, but damn I do enjoy going all caps and saying GIVE ME MONEY NOW
First play though I screamed at her to give me a million billion réal and she eventually relented and gave me a hundred. Didn't die in a dumpster.
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