I'll edit my responses here...
A small anecdote here: I read a few days ago that apparently, Alzheimer's patients get their daily routine and circadian rhythm knocked around by this policy
Edit 2: It's funny how people are talking about time, as if this were my 2nd post of discussion on why time measurement is bullshit, on my account...
Some memorable replies here:
another point is that it's probably not great for animals with a strong internal clock
Do not make me get up an hour earlier I will fucking cut you.
On the other hand it is nice the park is open later but have you considered just adequately lighting the park bike paths?
it's bad and we should commemorate the inventor with a public toilet
Hey, aren't you the person who was saying you and everyone you know is up by 7:30 on weekends so it's fine to be making lots of noise then?
I think these two things I said function in sync.
In sync to show that your opinions on time are bad and should be disregarded
Because I don’t like bumming around all morning?
No because you're a morning person who things everyone else should be morning people which makes you an insufferable piece of shit.
well that's just rude.
good post
I still disagree though 7am is in the realm of when noise is allowed and morning people must suffer in turn when we make noises at night. People are irritating that's a fact of life to be free of irritation is only possible for those who create their own prisons of sterile isolation
if you live around people you will be annoyed
If you make noises at 7am I will strangle you. I enjoy mornings, in part because they are nice and quiet. When I worked on construction sites we would do our best to do quiet work until 9, because we all acknowledged that making a lot of noise before 9 was just rude.
That’s nice
protestant ethic (and the spirit of capitalism) detected.
I don’t think we as a whole are agaisnt hard work. Workers should own the fruits of their labor, not not work
The protestant work ethic and its valuation of things like regular and early schedules, diligence in your dedicated lifelong vocation, and refusal of frivolous purchasing is largely responsible for the structure and dominance of capitalism.
Maybe check out The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism by Max Weber and do some self crit?
I’ll look into the book but I’m not sure how those wouldn’t be positive traits in socialism as well
Did your government put you in an incorrect timezone or something?
Every time there's DST change in my country a bunch of articles pop up that explain the following consensus put forward by sleep scientists:
During DST, most people sleep less (as in: not enough). There were studies where people got locked in windowless basements or something and they tended to adopt something like 25h rhythm (varies by person). That internal clock gets modulated back to 24h by exposure to sunlight. When people are forced to get up too early, they tend to no fully compensate by going to sleep earlier by a similar amount, due to the natural rhythm telling them it's too early for bed. This causes chronic lack of sleep, a permanent jet lag. Most of the working and school age population suffer from this during DST here, especially teenagers, since something something hormones makes them evening people.
The usual recommendation is to start school (especially for teenagers) not earlier than 9 normal time (instead of the usual 8 here). And to get rid of DST obviously.
Not earlier than 9?! No way that is a serious suggestion. I’m basing what I am saying off of my personal life. Starting school or work later means a later release time which means less free time. I think that it is therefore far better to start earlier and get out earlier. That gives people more leisure time. My personal experience has also been that I function more effectively and am in a better mood with the people I am around the earlier we start something. I think that the whole 9-5 thing is way worse than it would be other wise because of the hours. 7-3 is the same amount of hours but soooooo much more tolerable
its the same amount, there's two extra hours in the morning.
A separate two hours means only two hours of time in that smaller time frame which means less available things to do as they have to fit into that time frame. Many places are also not open them
the amount of time in the day doesn't change. someone could utilize later start times to sleep and stay up later, even!
The time in the day does change. If you become free at 4 rather than 2 then you have two less hours that the sun is out
you 'had' them in the morning they did not go away
But the morning hours are less usable
according to what? people sleeping in, working out, eating full breakfasts, they enjoy their time doing that. just because something doesn't occur to you doesn't mean it's incorrect
Yeah, they're both bananas things to say lol