• GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      Your take on Christianity here is somewhat post mideval. Witch hunts and stakeholders burning were an early modern thing. As far as roman ideology goes, bear in mind that veneration of female deities doesn't mean a more egalitarian society. Roman religious practices and ideas of Gods and such isn't in the full on God is Good Christian idea, remember, they're THE GODS, they're fickle and weird, demand animal sacrifices and send signals through birds. It's viewing Roman art and religious figures through a Christianized and modernized lense. The amount that Roman or really even mideval trains of thought operate would appear totally alien to us and to inflict modern views can be a huge mistake in understanding the complexity of pre modern societies. Cultural and religious veneration of an idealized woman doesn't translate to better treatment of IRL women, look at anime fans. Also the Gods were the Gods, they aren't human and weren't seen as such despite masculine or feminine traits being applied to them, there was no Olympian Jesus who related gohood to humanity so to speak the Goss were alien to them and impossible to comprehend to an extent. It was a wholly wholly different way of looking at the world. There wasn't really a connection seen between treating their wives and daughters as just a bit above slaves and animals and having female deities, thats just how the Roman Braimworms worked. All societies have brainstorms, past and present.

      • Venus [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        The amount that Roman or really even mideval trains of thought operate would appear totally alien to us and to inflict modern views can be a huge mistake in understanding the complexity of pre modern societies

        I completely disagree. Humans are humans and we've always been more or less the same. Every single thing I learn about history reinforces for me the idea that we have not significantly changed at any point in recorded history. The way we think and the way we act is the same.

    • Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      The difference is that in Roman times, with few exceptions, women were fully and brazenly commodified. Women were the property of their families or husbands, and could be not only bought and sold but looted and stolen.

      Christianity and feudal society was still oppressive towards women, of course, but codified a sort of patronizing chauvinism that did make life somewhat more bearable for women.

      It's wrong to characterize the shift as one from gender egalitarianism to theocratic oppression. The shift was from complete objectification and subjugation towards a more codified, patronizing oppression