• Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I mean, ancient forests were more productive, but it's because humans were collectively managing them, which is something we could actually do in a civilized world...

    • kristina [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, but the idea you can do that without farming with many billions of people is absurd.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Folks don't talk about that a clusterfuck food production is. Our current population levels are based on extractive agriculture reliant on finite inputs, which is actively killing insect populations. It's killing us long term.

        But the alternatives like managed forests and grasslands or agroecology can't feed the number of people currently on the planet, at least not with our current inefficient distribution where half of all food is destroyed.

        We need a lower population, and i don't mean this in a eugenicist way. We need levels of development and social welfare where people don't need to have kids to survive. We need access to contraception and reproductive healthcare to the point where people people are having kids out of concious choice. We need avenues for care and community outside of the family. We need education that challenges pro-natal ideologies.

        Like, you can't just talk about food.