interesting as in what, exactly? you can say its always the same map or whatever but like, this is biased the opposite of the usual way, and personally I'm cool with that. the way I see it we offer a bit more grace to explicit nonchristian religious symbols (star of david, crescent) because they aren't, you know, the global imperial core, and because the flags you list aren't, for the most part, seen as primarily religious even if there's a major element of it.
Okay, so we're saying any country that currently or previously in history appealed to their populace by claiming their rulers were ordained by a deity is just as symbolically connected to their religion as an explicitly religious ethnostate? Have you considered that maybe these aren't perfectly analagous? That there might be context?
Why would anyone see the Israeli national flag as primarily religious?
Because of very successful propaganda conflating the two, and the fact that it's primary (almost only) design element is a main symbol of Judaism. Any arrangement of perpendicular lines that cross is not on the same level of similarity to the cross as putting the literal exact star of david in the middle of a flag. Don't be thick.
This is more of a "lack of grace" for criticizing non-Christian iconography imo. I would hope a website that quotes Marx as much as Hexbear would have plenty of grace in criticizing any religion, so long as they are not attacking other members in doing so.
Don't conflate specifically "hosting an emote with a burning star of david" with all criticism of Israel. Criticism is not at issue here, what is, is merely being the slightest bit sensitive to the hurt caused, and more importantly the incredibly poor optics of portraying a burning jewish symbol, given the relatively recent fascist history of burning synagogues, and genociding jews.
The point is to not needlessly give ammunition to those who would slander us, because while to anyone who spends time here it is obvious that we are not anti-semites, hosting that would make it pretty easy to convince anyone who doesn't spend a lot of time here that we probably are.
I think it isn't due to it being religious in general but its relation to the Holocaust specifically. We should probably also avoid fire with a Latin cross specifically because of Klan cross-burning (Greek crosses, etc. are distinctly different and don't have the same history).
but I guess I'm just a heretical commie: Opium, heroin, fent - it's all the same to me.
As an antitheist: Shut the fuck up. You clearly don't understand Marx's meaning when he said that or you wouldn't be such a sneerimg misanthrope about it.
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed, the heart of a heartless world, i.e. a coping mechanism for people who are suffering, like opium was commonly used for at the time of his writing.
I ardently hope for a world where religion is essentially destroyed and exists only in history books and old monuments, but it's incorrect and antisocial to take such a contemptuous attitude towards religion in the current day rather than see it as a symptom of the problems that actually need to be fought.
But please, don't let me interrupt you just as you were about to show us a sketch in your notebook of a hypodermic needle interposed with a crucifix or some shit like that
the british flag isn't a religious symbol arguably the flags of st george and st andrew are individually religious symbols but taken together they represent only the union of England and Scotland and with the diagonal red lines Ireland into a united Britain which is not religious to anyone
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interesting as in what, exactly? you can say its always the same map or whatever but like, this is biased the opposite of the usual way, and personally I'm cool with that. the way I see it we offer a bit more grace to explicit nonchristian religious symbols (star of david, crescent) because they aren't, you know, the global imperial core, and because the flags you list aren't, for the most part, seen as primarily religious even if there's a major element of it.
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Okay, so we're saying any country that currently or previously in history appealed to their populace by claiming their rulers were ordained by a deity is just as symbolically connected to their religion as an explicitly religious ethnostate? Have you considered that maybe these aren't perfectly analagous? That there might be context?
Because of very successful propaganda conflating the two, and the fact that it's primary (almost only) design element is a main symbol of Judaism. Any arrangement of perpendicular lines that cross is not on the same level of similarity to the cross as putting the literal exact star of david in the middle of a flag. Don't be thick.
Don't conflate specifically "hosting an emote with a burning star of david" with all criticism of Israel. Criticism is not at issue here, what is, is merely being the slightest bit sensitive to the hurt caused, and more importantly the incredibly poor optics of portraying a burning jewish symbol, given the relatively recent fascist history of burning synagogues, and genociding jews.
The point is to not needlessly give ammunition to those who would slander us, because while to anyone who spends time here it is obvious that we are not anti-semites, hosting that would make it pretty easy to convince anyone who doesn't spend a lot of time here that we probably are.
I think it isn't due to it being religious in general but its relation to the Holocaust specifically. We should probably also avoid fire with a Latin cross specifically because of Klan cross-burning (Greek crosses, etc. are distinctly different and don't have the same history).
As an antitheist: Shut the fuck up. You clearly don't understand Marx's meaning when he said that or you wouldn't be such a sneerimg misanthrope about it.
Religion is the sigh of the oppressed, the heart of a heartless world, i.e. a coping mechanism for people who are suffering, like opium was commonly used for at the time of his writing.
I ardently hope for a world where religion is essentially destroyed and exists only in history books and old monuments, but it's incorrect and antisocial to take such a contemptuous attitude towards religion in the current day rather than see it as a symptom of the problems that actually need to be fought.
But please, don't let me interrupt you just as you were about to show us a sketch in your notebook of a hypodermic needle interposed with a crucifix or some shit like that
the british flag isn't a religious symbol arguably the flags of st george and st andrew are individually religious symbols but taken together they represent only the union of England and Scotland and with the diagonal red lines Ireland into a united Britain which is not religious to anyone