Both in the macro and at the micro scale, Genshin Impact is about communism. so we all know how in genshin impact there are archons, gods that are appointed by celestia that rule the 7 nations that currently exist, and there are civilizations long gone. So far we have discovered two celestial nails that wiped out the civilization at dragonspine and the other civilization. we know that the nations that were wiped out were advancing far beyond their capabilities, and potentially looked to usurp celestia's throne. so my theory is that they were smitten by celestia (america) because they were communist. also khaenriah is the biggest example of this, but this is obvious, which is why i did not bring it up until half way into my memerant. additionally, as the traveler we are the witness that can record information even as we go through samsara, which is what i would call Marx and Communists et al. as we saw through the lies of the dominant class to attain class consciousness no matter the point in time during our world's cycle. also in the latest archon quest (spoiler alert for masquerade of the guilty AQ) we learn that focalors was cursed by celestia, so she hid herself and used furina to take over her role as an archon, until she sacrificed herself to stand up to celestia. this is reminiscent of how china is playing with the bourgeoissie in their country to pretend they are capatilism. (end spoiler) also also also we know that there were old old civilizations like the seven sovereigns that existed in what was yet to become teyvat when phanes came and killed or subdued them all representing the settler state of america. actually the world of genshin has discrete periods of time that could potentially represent the well known developments of historical materialism if i cared to stretch the truth enough.

I hope this elucidated the world of Genshin Impact and convinced you that it is Marxist. Please repost to /r/Genshin_Lore

edit fuck turns out someone did this already ironically-unironically on the actual sub 💀💀

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I think it's predatory if you're prone to gambling or are a person who must have everything. I know plenty of people who tell me they've never paid anything and are deep into the game. I sunk about 30 hours into it for free without paying, so I believe them.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I agree. Just saying that in the Genshin casino, as in an actual Vegas casino, you can walk past the slot machines and eat the cheap buffet if you want.

        I actually also think that all blind booster based trading card games are also gambling and should be heavily restricted for young people but idk for some reason people don't see the parallels.

        • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          I actually also think that all blind booster based trading card games are also gambling and should be heavily restricted for young people but idk for some reason people don't see the parallels.

          i agree with that part

    • UlyssesT
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      16 days ago

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      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Well that's also true of the sale of alcohol and tobacco but I proposed abolishing that once and people were not happy with me.

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          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            "All or nothing" ideology generally just permits harmful things to happen and even normalizes them further.

            Ehh I disagree. The Mao-era campaign against opium addiction and it's success is proof that a campaign of prohibition is feasible if sufficient government and social resources are mobilized.

            The Westoid idea of prohibition of addictive vice being impossible is a product of botched Western half measures carried out in a context of horrific government corruption and social malaise like racism and inequality.

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              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                This is entirely consistent with my view that most Westoids need to spend a long period of time in compulsory reeducation at the very least.

                Also, if Genshin does end up banned in the West, I'm sure it'll be because of the Ebil CEE CEE PEE stealing our waifu data and not for any rational reason.

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                  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    Do you know Masses, Elites, et Rebels?

                    Because I think I may agree with you on this position of treat ideology, in regards to Genshin...

                    It’s absurd to see people rabidly complaining about, say, BBC’s China reporting being rife with orientalist falsehood, then turn around to make excuses for why the same exact stereotypes must be tolerated or even praised as they worm their way through high-budget entertainment productions. It’s absurd to see communists defend sinking dozens upon dozens of hours into reactionary, soul-crushing media like Breaking Bad or Mad Men or Game of Thrones, then turn around to ridicule and condemn the entire realm of ideological struggle as mere superstructure. A common refrain goes: “The news must be reported correctly, but let people enjoy things — artistic freedom is sacrosanct.” I deem this nonsense liberalism. When we do this, what we throw out the window comes right around through the backdoor.

                    In reality, entertainment media and news media serve the same propaganda purpose: they target not our reasoned beliefs about right and wrong, but our perception of social risks and rewards. People’s actual rationality, their ability to discern cause and effect, is far too resilient to be tampered with when their own immediate interests are at stake. People’s pride, however, is much more malleable. For communists to refuse to challenge media that makes them invisible — or, worse, aggressively humiliates them — is to surrender before the fight is even scheduled. And I genuinely believe that we do this every single time we refuse to challenge an Orwellism, or a Nietzscheanism. We have largely failed to create nourishing communist alternatives — not only in reality, as with the Black Panther breakfast program, but also as far as the imagination goes. And in the realm of imagination, as in others, nature abhors a vacuum. In absence of social-realist agitprop, Orwellism thrives.

            • Dolores [love/loves]
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              1 year ago

              The Westoid idea of prohibition of addictive vice being impossible

              why would centuries of experience and expansion of policing and surveillance that didn't succeed give countries not at all averse to banning vices an impression that it's difficult? China has not eliminated drug use, they got rid of opium fields, which are a pretty fucking big target as opposed to handfuls marijuana plants, moonshining, or a backalley craps game

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    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      It absolutely suffers for orienting its progression around lootboxes and RNG, whether one's a compulsive gambler or not. It's an absurdly awful paradigm that incentivizes making things worse deliberately in the hopes that doing so will make people shell out money.

      Especially since it's principally a single player game, its whole mobile game paid lootbox and time gated progression that you can pay to make slightly less shit is bad. Like even beside separating people from their money in a manipulative way it's just shitty and unpleasant design. Imagine reading a book where you were only allowed to read a single chapter a day unless you paid a few dollars in in-book currency, and you could only get all of the content in the chapters if you dumped enough money into buying page crates that would unlock random blocks of text throughout the book. Imagine a movie you could only watch 5 minutes of a day, and you had to play a slot machine to have all the characters actually appear in the movie at all. It's just bad on like every possible design level.

      • What_Religion_R_They [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Eh I don't think the book and movie similes work in regards to gacha. The characters in the story are all fully fledged agents and appear as they usually do. Getting 5-star characters to be playable is different, and I am sure it will be harder now that there are considerably more, but I got 9 5-stars without even spending a cent because of the Pity system, just from normal story progression. For reference, I only care about like 3 of them. Not to mention the cute characters are all 4-stars, which are easy to get. I think the gacha crisis is a bit overblown, and my only criticism is that it's predatory to vulnerable people who must have everything and now, and will fall victim to this system.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          My point is that it's not even about the money, but about how "you want access to [mechanical functionality]? Better hope the lootbox lets you lol" is just awful from a design standpoint. Ethical issues aside that's just making the system worse for the sake of making it worse, so that they can sell the chance at a solution to the problem they intentionally made.