• Adkml [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    John Brown is the person liberals think Lincoln was.

    • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Seriously! Imagine worshiping the guy who half assed abolishing slavery AFTER he won a civil war about it. It's just like how modern Democrats can run on a campaign of social justice but lose trans and abortion rights anyway. Despite being in control of basically the entire fuckin government

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It's always fun to tell liberals that Lincoln was literally by definition a white supremacist.

        He did not think black people were equal to white people he just had the relatively progressive belief for the time that they didn't deserve to be slaves because of that.

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          ~85-95% on the white American population were white supremacists, as were all other presidents before and after Lincoln

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Not disagreeing with you just saying it's funny to pop liberals bubble.

            Also the existence of people like John Brown do a lot to counter the argument it was just the belief at the time. Some people knew it was all horseshit now which is comforting when you feel like the only person who realizes its all horseshit now.

              • cmhickman358 [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I would love a 60's style cartoon of "John Brown and the Abolitionists."

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Just picturing a plantation owner on his knees like it's the end of a Scooby-Doo episode saying "and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!" Right before Jason Brown cuts his fucking head off with his dad's broadsword.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        i'd have a more moderate opinion of Biden if he had a hole blown in his head a month after Roe got overturned, tbh.

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I mean he did literally get shot right when the war ended. If he had lived I'm sure Revonstruction would have gone down a lot differently

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      1 year ago

      For any comrades who have any slight brainworms about thinking Lincoln was good, please read "Black Reconstruction in America" by W.E.B. Du Bois

      Sure he was better than what followed, but that's no high bar. He was still working to destroy radical reconstruction and went laughably soft on traitorous states.

      He also had a weird fixation with shipping off all these new free people to some Caribbean island because he didn't want to deal with them.

      • ZapataCadabra [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        And his party platform was to gradually eliminate slavery by settling western states as free. You know, by genociding the people that lived there.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Another example of liberals making their heroes out to be greater than they were while pretending the radicals that made far more of an effort never existed. FDR gets the same treatment as Lincoln, as well as JFK and LBJ.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        He also had a weird fixation with shipping off all these new free people to some Caribbean island because he didn't want to deal with them.

        He would’ve loved post WWII