One of my siblings is going to school once a week, I think lockdowns definitely fried some brains.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah people don't seem to realise that in some parts of the world remote school has been normal for decades. There are rural parts of my country where they had to do that long before covid.

    What I think had more negative psychological side effects was watching grown boomers throw tantrums over wearing masks. Why would kids take anything seriously after that? Adults can't even do the bare minimum so why should they?

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Nah Covid lockdowns definitely did something. Not saying they weren’t necessary, but the haphazard way it was done because America can’t think of anything through all the way means tons of kids fall through the cracks more than they already do normally. My wife is dealing with 4 year olds with pretty bad behavioral issues that clearly began when lockdowns started. Like these are clearly lockdown babies who were given unlimited access to technology and the internet and then all of the sudden had it taken away and now they have to sit in school in a regimented environment. How do you expect them to adjust to that? They can’t, they react like drug addicts having their drugs taken away. Not to put the blame on them, but this whole thing was not done with any thought at all and this is one of the consequences.

      • LocalMaxima [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        My wife is dealing with 4 year olds with pretty bad behavioral issues that clearly began when lockdowns started

        how were 6 month olds so wildly affected by lockdowns in spring 2020?

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Can’t say for sure, but we think it’s a combination of parents working more since Covid unfortunately killed a lot of people especially older people who would theoretically be the support structure for daycare while the parents are working. Then there’s the addiction to technology, which was already bad pre Covid, but during the lockdowns and now post Covid is probably worse than ever. Also this isn’t something that just effects the prek kids, there is notable behavioral issues with all grade levels. I know it sounds like bullshit, but I’m telling you something happened to make these kids start acting this way and I don’t think the general assumptions of this thread that the lockdowns had no affect isn’t a very good one to take. The reason I bring up the smaller children at all is because the prevailing assumption ITT is that the reason these kids are acting this way is because of a generalized sense of despair, which might be true for older children, but doesn’t explain anything for the younger ones who as you said were only months old during the lockdowns. They barely have a concept of the color blue let alone any idea that climate change or fascism is a thing.

          It’s very easy to think that teachers are just complaining and kids are no different than before or that they’ve always been like this, but when multiple veteran teachers are telling us first hand that these are easily the worst classes they’ve had in their careers that shouldn’t mean nothing. Teachers spend more time with the kids than their parents do pretty much, their first hand accounts should be taken seriously.

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            I do not like this idea that lockdown is a mere inconvenience like having to take the stairs instead of using an elevator. It's very obvious lockdown, even the quarter-ass lockdown the US tried to implement, would have a negative effect on people. Only a particular type of ND could actually thrive under lockdown conditions. However, despite the negative effect, lockdown is overall necessary if we want to actually live in a post-Covid world and not be forever stuck with Covid. It's like a medicine with pretty terrible side effects but that is also the only way to treat a particular disease.

            In my more cynical moments, I believe the US essentially did the worst of two worlds. The US only did lockdown enough to tank an entire generation's social development, but Covid was still allowed to let it rip, so now you have kids with poor social skills and a body ruined by Covid.

      • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Not as much as the millions who died and the new realization that you will never be safe again

          • TheDialectic [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            Nothing covid did caused a such psychic trauma as millions of deaths. Now we all live knowing if there was a world ending threat the government wouldn't do anything to stop it or help. People used to not know that before. It is alot for a regular person to deal with