EDIT: Okay, it was a bit silly of me to drag my heels in, I don't strictly hate it and there are good things about British cooking (mostly veggies), but I find the meme's meat obsession super silly. I am having stomach pains and cramped arteries just looking at this stuff.

Highly underrated

I love how it's superimposed on the diapers lmao, I hope the meme was ironic

  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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    10 months ago

    They really aren't Americans outside of legal status and citizenry

    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    aren't actually Americans if we understand Americans to be the inheritors and heirs of the settler colonial project known as the United States of America.

    Why would we define Americans in that very specific and idiosyncratic way?

    Please go around talking to people of color in the United States and explain this to them and see what they think I guess.

    It just seems like you're accepting all of the premises about the intrinsic alieness and foreignness of people of color in the US that your standard white nationalist would have but woke

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        No, they aren't American because they haven't completely assimilated into whiteness. This is arguably a good thing because American is a fake settler-colonial identity anyways.

        Kinda bizarre how people here are having these patsoc-adjacent takes.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      I mean, you shouldn't want to be American in the same way you shouldn't want to be Israeli. Pretty much every single Black radical like Malcolm X reject being American, so I'm not saying anything particularly new. There's that famous speech by a Hawaiian activist titled "We are not Americans." Modern Pan-African orgs and Indigenous communities also reject the label American as well as the settler-colonial borders of the US and Canada. There's plenty of Indigenous tribal nations and communities that have their ancestral lands separated into a US Native American half and a Canadian First Nations half, but they still understand themselves as one people because unlike the two illegitimate settler-colonies, they constitute a real nation.

      The only real reason why you don't hear this rhetoric among the various diasporas is because most diaspora communities function as a buffer zone between white settlers at the top and the Black and Indigenous at the bottom. There's a degree of assimilation/gusanofication among the diasporas too, but for the nonwhite diasporas at least, white settlers are too pathologically racist for them to be fully integrated into whiteness and the settler-colonial order. Just like how the US-Canadian border is largely a legal matter among Indigenous nations, whether your nationality is American or Canadian is largely a legal matter among the diasporas.

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        10 months ago

        Perfectly fine by me if anyone doesn't want to identify as American. But plenty of people do, and who are you to tell them they aren't?

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          10 months ago

          How do you square this with the fact that the US is a settler-colony that must be dismantled? With the dismantlement of the US, they wouldn't be Americans because there wouldn't be an America to identify as.

            • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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              10 months ago

              I am simply asking a question. You are free to answer it or ignore it. How do you square people self-identifying as Americans with the fact that the US is a settler-colony that must be dismantled?

                • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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                  10 months ago

                  Because people who self-identify as X are not going to do anything that would destroy X because that would destroy their sense of identity. If anything, they will fight hard to preserve X even if X ought to be destroyed.