please don't be disrespectful like that, although I get it. I know people here have had a lot of sour experiences with Christianity in the west, but spirituality is a normal thing. Personally I'm an atheist too, but come on. Your username references John Brown, who did read the Bible and it made him into a militant abolitionist.
Is it disrespectful if it's true? My personal experience is that reading the bible after being raised in a religious environment made me into an atheist, and I personally know a good number of people who went through the same thing.
I feel it paints my religion as for people who have no capacity for critical thought. That merely reading the bible would suffice to cure people of Christianity is snarkily commented on almost every post in reddit or Lemmy atheist communities.
it's not disrespect, it's a very common experience which is why people say it so frequently. But i have also encountered lots of religious folks who misunderstand the truth as disrespect. Maybe you did actually read the bible and not just selected verses from your leader or franchise but if you did and maintained your faith that's somewhat unusual.
and there were christians fighting to maintain the institution of slavery just as the only good white american fought to end it. and instructions in the bible about how you could keep a slave you were otherwise supposed to free under jewish law. Surely you can forgive us having a low opinion of a text that can be on either side of the "debate" about slavery.
It was also my experience that reading the Bible made me an atheist. Their god is an evil deity that only gets credited as "good" because he's also their creator deity. Take that away and he's a wicked tyrant that tortures and murders people for petty sleights, killed his own son for basically no reason, and plans to send billions of innocent people into the Lake of Fire because they didn't love him hard enough.
they don't, and that's presumably what made protestants seem more progressive and such. but turns out you can tell people what to think about the book-club book pretty well with appropriate theatrics.
bonus points if you control which 'translation' of the book you deem permitted
These people generally don't read the Bible directly, they read glosses that explain how the plain text reading is wrong and it actually means God is America and Jesus loves guns.
But how do we get to praying to a large stone pillar? Im genuinely curious, this is such an upset of not just christinaity but protestantism in particular it boggles my mind.
Emphasis on "American," for those wondering, Second Thought recently has made a really good video diving into the subject of Christian Nationalism which centers American exceptionalism as its "Jesus figure."
What is the context for this?
Just some evangelicals praying on the Washington monument like it's the Western Wall.
as a christian i am flabbergasted at this behaviour. how does this even happen??
The leaders of the American Christian movement are all very rich, fascist, and most importantly, rich
but still, i presume these people can read the bible for themselves right?
actually reading the bible is a great way to make atheists, so presumably the church discourages it
please don't be disrespectful like that, although I get it. I know people here have had a lot of sour experiences with Christianity in the west, but spirituality is a normal thing. Personally I'm an atheist too, but come on. Your username references John Brown, who did read the Bible and it made him into a militant abolitionist.
Is it disrespectful if it's true? My personal experience is that reading the bible after being raised in a religious environment made me into an atheist, and I personally know a good number of people who went through the same thing.
I feel it paints my religion as for people who have no capacity for critical thought. That merely reading the bible would suffice to cure people of Christianity is snarkily commented on almost every post in reddit or Lemmy atheist communities.
it's not disrespect, it's a very common experience which is why people say it so frequently. But i have also encountered lots of religious folks who misunderstand the truth as disrespect. Maybe you did actually read the bible and not just selected verses from your leader or franchise but if you did and maintained your faith that's somewhat unusual.
and there were christians fighting to maintain the institution of slavery just as the only good white american fought to end it. and instructions in the bible about how you could keep a slave you were otherwise supposed to free under jewish law. Surely you can forgive us having a low opinion of a text that can be on either side of the "debate" about slavery.
It was also my experience that reading the Bible made me an atheist. Their god is an evil deity that only gets credited as "good" because he's also their creator deity. Take that away and he's a wicked tyrant that tortures and murders people for petty sleights, killed his own son for basically no reason, and plans to send billions of innocent people into the Lake of Fire because they didn't love him hard enough.
they don't, and that's presumably what made protestants seem more progressive and such. but turns out you can tell people what to think about the book-club book pretty well with appropriate theatrics.
bonus points if you control which 'translation' of the book you deem permitted
Not in my experience
These people generally don't read the Bible directly, they read glosses that explain how the plain text reading is wrong and it actually means God is America and Jesus loves guns.
But how do we get to praying to a large stone pillar? Im genuinely curious, this is such an upset of not just christinaity but protestantism in particular it boggles my mind.
Emphasis on "American," for those wondering, Second Thought recently has made a really good video diving into the subject of Christian Nationalism which centers American exceptionalism as its "Jesus figure."
If Catholicism was integral to francoist Spain then I imagine protestantism will be integral to whatever fascist state the US might devolve into
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Can I get a source for this image? When did this happen?
2020
https://onlysky.media/sarahbeth/thousands-of-christians-rallied-in-d-c-to-pray-for-a-nation-they-helped-divide/
https://archive.is/4otwW