cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3052949

http://archive.today/uOdUb

  • the_kid
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    7 months ago

    I told this story in the news mega before:

    I went to a PSL rally for Palestine and as we were doing the "whose streets? our streets!" chant, the organizers told us to move off the street to let some buses pass.

    the US is hopeless, no socialist movement will ever happen in the imperial core

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      Of all the things to criticize PSL for this is probably the worst one I've heard

    • NPa [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      "what do we want?"

      "incremental change!"

      "when do we want it?"

      "whenever it's convenient for the ruling class!" not-hillary

    • oktherebuddy
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      7 months ago

      making way for public transit isn't too bad tbh

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      It’s not going to happen first. But you can’t wait until the global south rises up to do your part lol. These things need to occur simultaneously. Who do you think will be more influential when the global south’s actions start affecting the west and only fascists are out there in the streets saying they care?

      I assumed 99% of the people on this site involved in organizations are already aware their socialist group isn’t going to become bolsheviks from just talking about books and chants, and that the goal was to simply exhaust the so called civil options and build a network before things get seriously. And maybe suggest to your group that they should be focusing on outreach with protests on the side.

      The US is definitely hopeless if you Unironically thought a revolution would happen and became disillusioned. You should remember that communism became a threat in the west because non western countries were starting to challenge them. Then the class-and-theory revolutionaries - who served their communities in addition to protesting - were murdered and replaced with hippies, electoralists, and black supremacists

      People who commit violence for you without even knowing what you stand for are untrustworthy. People who commit violence for you without being aware of the the people’s conditions are also untrustworthy.

      • Gimasag [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Have you read Lenin’s Left-Wing Comminism? He makes a pretty good argument for why communists should run in bourgeois elections.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        That video slaps. Criticisms aside, good luck to them in reaching some more people.