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A pandemic of heart failures. This is certainly something I've been worried about ever since we found out how much covid affects the heart, scary to see research pointing in that direction too.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    9 months ago

    And that's just one of the horrible side effects of covid. Which is why I have nightmares about massive drops in the population in the coming years. doomer

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Don't worry. By then, the once fringe, but now popular theory is that it's actually the vaccine that is causing the massive depopulation and that it's all part of the WEF's master plan. Also it'll be a Democrat promoting that.

      lathe-of-heaven

    • macabrett[they/them]@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      It's frustrating, because every past pandemic has been haunted by the scars of it. We've never seen one like covid with the world so connected. Additionally, we have all sorts of evidence that the long term effects are bad, but somehow I'm the unhinged one for taking precautions.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        9 months ago

        Yeah, I keep meaning to read up more on the links between the Long Spanish Flu and the Rise of Nazis but I've got such a long list to get through still. But it definitely seems like something we should be more aware of.

        • dat_math [they/them]
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          9 months ago

          I found this paper and articles that mention (but don't neatly cite) it, but I'm wondering if you were aware of other commentary on this?

          • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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            9 months ago

            Idk if you'll be able to see the post as it's been deleted but @ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net brought it to my attention with the following comment:

            There were "Long Spanish Flu" symptoms, as well as disabilities, that I believe to be the first victims of the Nazi euthanasia programs. The phrase Life Unworthy of Life was coined in 1920.

            EDIT: I forgot about the study showing Spanish Flu deaths led directly to Nazi support.

            The study he posts is the one you found. The twitter thread is from all the way back in November 2020. One of the reasons I think it's probably likely and would like to find some further reading on it is because of the story behind the "first they came for the communists..." poem.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

            Martin Niemöller was a German Lutheran pastor and theologian born in Lippstadt, Germany, in 1892. Niemöller was an anti-Communist and supported Adolf Hitler's rise to power. But when, after he came to power, Hitler insisted on the supremacy of the state over religion, Niemöller became disillusioned. He became the leader of a group of German clergymen opposed to Hitler. In 1937 he was arrested and eventually confined in Sachsenhausen and Dachau. He was released in 1945 by the Allies. He continued his career in Germany as a cleric and as a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II.

            Note this part

            the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? We knew it, it was printed in the newspapers. Who raised their voice, maybe the Confessing Church? We thought: Communists, those opponents of religion, those enemies of Christians—"should I be my brother's keeper?"

            Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others. Isn't it best for all concerned if they are taken out of the middle [of society]? Only then did the church as such take note.

            Given the state of things... yea