• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    6 months ago

    "I'll take care of us" proceeds to force the wife to take care of his every need to the point where he doesn't even know how to cook

    If these women of the past were so happy being under the thumb on their husbands, why did they keep on rebelling, eventually even willing to put their lives on the line to gain freedom? Hmm thinking-about-it

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      6 months ago

      "I'll take care of us" proceeds to force the wife to take care of his every need

      Nonsense. We'll just hire a maid, a cook, a stable-hand, a small battalion of guards, and a priest to propagandize them all into thinking this is normal and good.

      You just sit around making babies and I'll be out hunting, soldiering, raping, and looting my way through the adjacent neighborhood.

      If these women of the past were so happy being under the thumb on their husbands, why did they keep on rebelling, eventually even willing to put their lives on the line to gain freedom?

      Obviously, this never happened. Happiness during the late Medieval Era was extremely high, because everyone was perfectly aligned with their gender and social roles. It was a utopia that was only ruined by the damned liberalism of the Enlightenment Era.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Finally, someone said it. On a scale, marriage is practically parasitical to the extent where men are culturally discouraged from taking care of themselves because they can always turn their gf/wife into 'the help' and do all the shitty work they think they're too good for. It's even worse if you're like me and of anti-italian-action descent. Nothing like getting called gay by a cousin for helping out with cleaning up during the holidays (I mean he's half-right hexbear-bi-2, but still.)

      • 420stalin69
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        6 months ago

        Little depressed me more than learning the amount of housework the average husband does actually decreases after the first child is born.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          6 months ago

          Not to defend men too much, but that can also be explained by needing pull crazy overtime so you can actually financially support a family. Your ability to do housework decreases because you are physically not at home as much.

          • 420stalin69
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            6 months ago

            It’s also explained by the men feeling more secure since a child ties the couple together in a way that marriage alone doesn’t, so this gets exploited by making less of an effort. Motherhood being used to effect traditional and unequal gender roles.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        During the holidays I’d ask the women if they need me to do anything. They tell me no, I don’t know how to do anything. Then I turn around and their husbands are nowhere near the kitchen and just drinking and watching football in the living room.

        • HexBroke [any, comrade/them]
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          6 months ago

          If someone tells you not to do anything, just pick up a hand towel and start drying dishes or cleaning used kitchen workspaces.

          Some men will offer to help and then do a task so badly they'll never be asked again, so you might need to demonstrate a basic level of competence first.

          • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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            6 months ago

            Nah my mom rarely lets me do anything even when I was a kid lol. So yeah, I don’t know how to do shit, but no one seems to give me any tasks outside of “put dishes in the table” and it never progresses

            • HexBroke [any, comrade/them]
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              6 months ago

              Oh yeah, my mom was the same.

              I left home at 16 and haven't spoken to her in decades. Honestly a great deal happier.

        • carpoftruth [any, any]
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          6 months ago

          "How can I help?" is the golden phrase. It implies you're going to help (it isn't asking if you can help) but it allows that you helping might just be staying out of the way. If it's that, stay out of the way but watch and learn, or provide emotional support by hanging out while someone else does the thing.

      • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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        6 months ago

        Finally, someone said

        I don't want to womansplain to you. But women HAVE been saying this shit since the written language, it's like half of feminist literature.

    • Yurt_Owl
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      6 months ago

      Return to tradition... Of wives poisoning their husbands hehe