Welcome to Feb 2022 where every sane person said "agree or not with Putin, but this war must not be funded or it will be far more devastating to Ukraine AND Russia than letting Putin force his way on some issues."
Then everyone who said this was told "wow, Putin is literally Hitler though and you're appeasing modern Hitler who just wants to seize all of Ukraine and exterminate the Ukrainians! And then he will want the west!"
And there's just so many fucking things wrong with comparing Putin to Hitler that I won't even bother. There is something amazingly omega levels of liberal that allows libs to call Putin Hitler meanwhile siding with Israel. A total and complete lack of even surface level knowledge of WWII and what the Nazis did and why they did it (someone called analyzing why Nazis did genocide "Holocaust denialism" recently which I found, frankly, guffaw-inducing. "No, no don't read their reasoning or you'll figure out it's essentially the exact same as Israel now... and the US!" Just pure liberal "good guys vs bad guys" with zero analysis of why a man like Hitler came to power or why Israel elects and keeps in power openly genocidal warlords).
I've always been pretty clear of my criticisms of Putin. I think he's genuinely an immoral person. He's fine with the deaths of thousands at his command and on the other side for his ultimate goals which aren't necessarily "just" if your end goal or your justice, like mine, is more democratic control of everything in society. This is not Putin's goal, so, I don't agree with his actions. However, that doesn't mean he doesn't have reasons for his actions and the irony of the Ukraine war is the US would have done the exact same thing. I'm not sure if a definite equivalent exists, but the US has certainly done worse things than invading a neighboring basically cousin-nation (I mean, come on...) under false pretenses of liberation. The US just invades far off nations under those same vague and bullshit reasons.
I hate liberals. I really fucking do. I just want them to say "I don't care if Palestinians die. I do care when "white" Christian Ukrainians die. (But also not really)"Just be honest and dispense with the theatrics and posturing involved in pretending you give a shit at all. Everyone knows they don't care. The left knows it obviously, the right wingers even know it and meme on them for it, and surely the libs know it in whatever they have left that passes for a soul. A lot more have certainly been mask-off recently with their fervent hatred of Russians (generally, not even just the army) and Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims.
What libs fundamentally want is the “rules based order” where the credentialed people ruling the right countries make the rules and order everyone else around. Everything else they’re either paying lip service to or treat as a result of that order being in control, that the rules-based order being hegemonic means democracy and freedom must be flourishing, regardless of reality. Anything going against that order, regardless of how justified, they loathe with seething fury.
American insistence that this war continue until Russia/Putin is “broken” is doing way more to end Ukrainian lives than Russia.
Welcome to Feb 2022 where every sane person said "agree or not with Putin, but this war must not be funded or it will be far more devastating to Ukraine AND Russia than letting Putin force his way on some issues."
Then everyone who said this was told "wow, Putin is literally Hitler though and you're appeasing modern Hitler who just wants to seize all of Ukraine and exterminate the Ukrainians! And then he will want the west!"
And there's just so many fucking things wrong with comparing Putin to Hitler that I won't even bother. There is something amazingly omega levels of liberal that allows libs to call Putin Hitler meanwhile siding with Israel. A total and complete lack of even surface level knowledge of WWII and what the Nazis did and why they did it (someone called analyzing why Nazis did genocide "Holocaust denialism" recently which I found, frankly, guffaw-inducing. "No, no don't read their reasoning or you'll figure out it's essentially the exact same as Israel now... and the US!" Just pure liberal "good guys vs bad guys" with zero analysis of why a man like Hitler came to power or why Israel elects and keeps in power openly genocidal warlords).
I've always been pretty clear of my criticisms of Putin. I think he's genuinely an immoral person. He's fine with the deaths of thousands at his command and on the other side for his ultimate goals which aren't necessarily "just" if your end goal or your justice, like mine, is more democratic control of everything in society. This is not Putin's goal, so, I don't agree with his actions. However, that doesn't mean he doesn't have reasons for his actions and the irony of the Ukraine war is the US would have done the exact same thing. I'm not sure if a definite equivalent exists, but the US has certainly done worse things than invading a neighboring basically cousin-nation (I mean, come on...) under false pretenses of liberation. The US just invades far off nations under those same vague and bullshit reasons.
I hate liberals. I really fucking do. I just want them to say "I don't care if Palestinians die. I do care when "white" Christian Ukrainians die. (But also not really)"Just be honest and dispense with the theatrics and posturing involved in pretending you give a shit at all. Everyone knows they don't care. The left knows it obviously, the right wingers even know it and meme on them for it, and surely the libs know it in whatever they have left that passes for a soul. A lot more have certainly been mask-off recently with their fervent hatred of Russians (generally, not even just the army) and Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims.
What libs fundamentally want is the “rules based order” where the credentialed people ruling the right countries make the rules and order everyone else around. Everything else they’re either paying lip service to or treat as a result of that order being in control, that the rules-based order being hegemonic means democracy and freedom must be flourishing, regardless of reality. Anything going against that order, regardless of how justified, they loathe with seething fury.