Someone is posting gore pictures in that thread, proceed with extreme caution. Like reall bad shit. I'll tell yo the context here so you don't have to go to the thread
Some Fash is alleging the flag picture was cropped and darkened bc one oft the Soviet soldiers had a "watch" on each wrist, proving that they were the badguys because they must have stolen the watch from a Nazi, which would be bad. This proves that communism doesn't work and the poor oppressed Germans were something something something fash noises.
Word. Afaik having an accurate time piece, at least for NCOs and officers, was literally life or death since they needed them to do any kind of coordination at a time when radios sucked or were rare and precious, or just couldn't keep up with an advance.
Afaik, in "Looting is against the laws of war" terms, stealing weapons and war materiel probably isn't the same thing as taking personal effects from corpses, or durable goods from homes.
I’ll be honest and say I don’t really know what the laws were back then. I know it’s pretty illegal now, but there are forms and stuff you can fill out now to take certain stuff back home, but if it’s anything cool you can pretty much guarantee it’ll be denied or higher up will take it for themselves.
Yeah, idk either. I think the Soviets were actually signed on to more treaties than some of the Western nations, but I'm not 100% on that. AFAIK looting has been frowned upon/a hanging offense since maybe WWI? But Idk.
Oh yeah, take whatever you want from Nazis, idc. I think there's something to be said for returning personal effects like ID documents and lockets and whatever to the families where possible, just like as a closure thing, but if you need a watch or a pocket knife or whatever go ham. They're Nazis. they should have stayed home.
I suspect most militaries take a hard line on looting bc a little bit of looting could escalate to a lot of looting, so they just flat out say no.
CW: Gruesome pacific front shit, racism, dehumanization
spoiler
I've read once or twice that there was a trend of US soldiers in the Pacific decapitating Japanses soldiers (mostly), cleaning the skulls, and mailing them back to their families as gruesome trophies. It really speaks to how absolute the dehumanization of Japanese during the war was. I'm not 100% it's true, though, as I've only seen it a couple of times and haven't dug in to it too much. I can totally see why that wouldn't be something the US put front and center though.
Most claims preceding this one are logically indistinguishable from the non-sequitor "In the USSR, two men got into a bar fight, therefor proving that communism doesn't work." but always presented as self-evident pristine white glove logic.
My absolute favorite version of this is Enemy at the Gates; Two dudes are both super for Rachel Weisz (in fairness who isn't?) therefor Communism cannot work.
Someone is posting gore pictures in that thread, proceed with extreme caution. Like reall bad shit. I'll tell yo the context here so you don't have to go to the thread
Some Fash is alleging the flag picture was cropped and darkened bc one oft the Soviet soldiers had a "watch" on each wrist, proving that they were the badguys because they must have stolen the watch from a Nazi, which would be bad. This proves that communism doesn't work and the poor oppressed Germans were something something something fash noises.
The reply point out how fucking stupid that is.
Famously, soldiers have no use for time pieces, and keeping accurate time for strategies or anything especially back then in the analogue age.
Word. Afaik having an accurate time piece, at least for NCOs and officers, was literally life or death since they needed them to do any kind of coordination at a time when radios sucked or were rare and precious, or just couldn't keep up with an advance.
It wasn't until the post-911 Iraq-involved-war that generals stopped waiting for the enemy's army to show to shake hands and lay out the ground rules.
Americans literary sent back entire machine guns back home as trophy’s. Taking a watch is basically nothing.
Afaik, in "Looting is against the laws of war" terms, stealing weapons and war materiel probably isn't the same thing as taking personal effects from corpses, or durable goods from homes.
I’ll be honest and say I don’t really know what the laws were back then. I know it’s pretty illegal now, but there are forms and stuff you can fill out now to take certain stuff back home, but if it’s anything cool you can pretty much guarantee it’ll be denied or higher up will take it for themselves.
Yeah, idk either. I think the Soviets were actually signed on to more treaties than some of the Western nations, but I'm not 100% on that. AFAIK looting has been frowned upon/a hanging offense since maybe WWI? But Idk.
Talking WW2 I'd argue a watch is a personal effect on an ally and an emergency compass on a nazi
Oh yeah, take whatever you want from Nazis, idc. I think there's something to be said for returning personal effects like ID documents and lockets and whatever to the families where possible, just like as a closure thing, but if you need a watch or a pocket knife or whatever go ham. They're Nazis. they should have stayed home.
I suspect most militaries take a hard line on looting bc a little bit of looting could escalate to a lot of looting, so they just flat out say no.
CW: Gruesome pacific front shit, racism, dehumanization
spoiler
I've read once or twice that there was a trend of US soldiers in the Pacific decapitating Japanses soldiers (mostly), cleaning the skulls, and mailing them back to their families as gruesome trophies. It really speaks to how absolute the dehumanization of Japanese during the war was. I'm not 100% it's true, though, as I've only seen it a couple of times and haven't dug in to it too much. I can totally see why that wouldn't be something the US put front and center though.
Most claims preceding this one are logically indistinguishable from the non-sequitor "In the USSR, two men got into a bar fight, therefor proving that communism doesn't work." but always presented as self-evident pristine white glove logic.
My absolute favorite version of this is Enemy at the Gates; Two dudes are both super
for Rachel Weisz (in fairness who isn't?) therefor Communism cannot work.
found this from @FuknSlammer's "Tweets & Replies" page so I had no idea about this. thank you for warning everyone.