Yeah man, the people who follow poc around in shops or keep them out of places of business aren't part of a racist culture and pointing that out is the same as calling a barista a landlord. You sure are making a point.
A starbucks barista is expected to gatekeep who's allowed in their place of business too. Basically everyone in retail is working security as part of their job. They're all cops, right?
I'm not being a fucking debate bro, I'm making a serious point that you should be more mindful of who you're calling cops. The definition of cop you're using is completely pointless and paints TONS of our comrades as cops. It's fucking shitty behavior to just go around calling people cops for having a normal goddamn job in this capitalist hellscape. When I worked the front desk at a gym, my primary job was keeping out people who weren't supposed to be there. Does that make me a cop? Does it make you feel good to call your comrades cops for trying to make fucking money so we can fucking eat food?
When I worked the front desk at a gym, my primary job was keeping out people who weren't supposed to be there. Does that make me a cop?
Unless your company didn’t care about liability and had you physically barring people, your job was to call the cops lol.
Security guards are the ones responding to your call if they’re on site, and many are required to be physical if anything happens, although a lot of places will also have them just call cops if they’re unarmed. So being a security guard proper is closer to being a cop than you threatening to call the cops if some disruptive guy trespasses.
But to call anyone remotely involved with security or reporting a cop is pretty funny. The teenage cashier at Walmart is a cop because his manager tells him to check people’s receipts and report any theft lol.
I'm not going to debate the role "security" play in upholding racist and classist systems of oppression, no matter how much you want to excuse it. Find somewhere else
His point of security guards not being closely aligned with cops is pretty funny, but so is your point of anything involving security is oppression. But I’ll just assume your comment about it existing in a spectrum to mean some kid checking receipts is on the lower end of oppressing people
Of course it means that there is less and more egregious forms of policing people than others,what else could it possibly mean.
The guy who follows me around the store because of my skin color is not as bad as what armed private security can get up to, and the guy denying black and brown men entry into venues based on racism is closer to the first than the second, but in all cases security is doing policing of poc with either the explicit threat of violence or the implicit threat of summoning the police to do violence.
Edit: And equating this with calling cashiers cops is incredibly lame of you. Nowhere did I say any such yhing, and I explicitly rejected the idea when the other guy brought it up with baristas for being a stupid comparison.
And equating this with calling cashiers cops is incredibly lame of you. Nowhere did I say any such yhing, and I explicitly rejected the idea when the other guy brought it up with baristas for being a stupid comparison.
never said you equated them. I’m equating cashiers to cops. I work in cyber security and i consider myself a cyber cop lol. Cashiers and I essentially do the same job - check logs and report to the boss when someone prohibited gains access to something.
And I’m saying “cashier” broadly because in grocery stores they tend to rotate between several front end jobs that may or may not be cashier, but it’s easier to just say that than whatever custom position they have.
Yeah man, the people who follow poc around in shops or keep them out of places of business aren't part of a racist culture and pointing that out is the same as calling a barista a landlord. You sure are making a point.
A starbucks barista is expected to gatekeep who's allowed in their place of business too. Basically everyone in retail is working security as part of their job. They're all cops, right?
I'm not being a fucking debate bro, I'm making a serious point that you should be more mindful of who you're calling cops. The definition of cop you're using is completely pointless and paints TONS of our comrades as cops. It's fucking shitty behavior to just go around calling people cops for having a normal goddamn job in this capitalist hellscape. When I worked the front desk at a gym, my primary job was keeping out people who weren't supposed to be there. Does that make me a cop? Does it make you feel good to call your comrades cops for trying to make fucking money so we can fucking eat food?
Unless your company didn’t care about liability and had you physically barring people, your job was to call the cops lol.
Security guards are the ones responding to your call if they’re on site, and many are required to be physical if anything happens, although a lot of places will also have them just call cops if they’re unarmed. So being a security guard proper is closer to being a cop than you threatening to call the cops if some disruptive guy trespasses.
But to call anyone remotely involved with security or reporting a cop is pretty funny. The teenage cashier at Walmart is a cop because his manager tells him to check people’s receipts and report any theft lol.
That is also the job of the vast majority of security guards who encounter something dangerous or illegal.
Yes I know
I'm not going to debate the role "security" play in upholding racist and classist systems of oppression, no matter how much you want to excuse it. Find somewhere else
His point of security guards not being closely aligned with cops is pretty funny, but so is your point of anything involving security is oppression. But I’ll just assume your comment about it existing in a spectrum to mean some kid checking receipts is on the lower end of oppressing people
Of course it means that there is less and more egregious forms of policing people than others,what else could it possibly mean. The guy who follows me around the store because of my skin color is not as bad as what armed private security can get up to, and the guy denying black and brown men entry into venues based on racism is closer to the first than the second, but in all cases security is doing policing of poc with either the explicit threat of violence or the implicit threat of summoning the police to do violence.
Edit: And equating this with calling cashiers cops is incredibly lame of you. Nowhere did I say any such yhing, and I explicitly rejected the idea when the other guy brought it up with baristas for being a stupid comparison.
never said you equated them. I’m equating cashiers to cops. I work in cyber security and i consider myself a cyber cop lol. Cashiers and I essentially do the same job - check logs and report to the boss when someone prohibited gains access to something.
And I’m saying “cashier” broadly because in grocery stores they tend to rotate between several front end jobs that may or may not be cashier, but it’s easier to just say that than whatever custom position they have.