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      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        I'm sorry dude you can't just go to white castle, and then not be able to go to white castle for 80 years and then claim you've always had white castle
        at some point people are gonna ask some questions! like why didn't you bring me back sliders!

        • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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          6 months ago

          They did bring back sliders… they were freely distributed to the scientific community across the world including the Soviet Union.

          Do you really think that the Soviet Union was not tracking the entire Apollo process? The US used the same process of verification that the Soviets did with Gagarin in putting a transponder on the moon that would bounce back any signals shot at it. Guess what the Soviets did? Test to see if the transponder was actually were NASA said it was, and wow! It was.

          The Moon Landing conspiracies have to be some of the dumbest by far. Do you really think the Soviet Union would have sat on its hands and let the US get away with what would be one of the biggest lies in human history? Do you think they didn’t have spies in NASA?

          Chinese probes themselves have taken pictures of the Apollo landing sites. Don’t make yourself look like a fool.

            • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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              6 months ago

              I LOVE SPACE.

              Do not let me into any sort of socialist leadership position because massive portions of the budget would be mysteriously relocated to space related scientific endeavors.

          • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            Nation states conduct many back channel deals. Just one speculative example: Nixon could have traded a withdrawal from Vietnam for silence on a conspiracy, since the US cares more about propaganda victories than human lives. Nixon's "Vietnamization" policy (the gradual drawdown) went into effect around the time of the first moon landing.

            Do you happen to know where the Chinese photos can be viewed?

            • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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              6 months ago

              Huh? The US was already going to withdraw from Vietnam, and everyone knew it. They were losing to many men, to much money, and it was wildly unpopular and unsustainable. The Soviet Union would have never traded one of the greatest chances in world history to humiliate the United States for a Vietnam withdrawal that was already happening.

              Why would China agree to lie with the US? You’re telling me you got France, the EU, the Soviet Union, China, Japan, India, South Korea, and dozens of massive corporations and organizations to agree to lie together?

              The landings happened. There are to many variables for this conspiracy to work. It is not possible.

            • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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              6 months ago

              They are not publicly viewable sadly, as the technology and camera used by the Chinese probe/lander is still classified. However the scientists and Chinese space agency explicitly stated that they found evidence of all previous Apollo landings.

              https://english.cas.cn/newsroom/archive/china_archive/cn2012/201202/t20120207_81106.shtml

              However pictures from India’s Chandrayaan 2 lander of the Apollo Eagle landing are public and can be viewed with a Google search.

              Further, I checked the references and it all seems to check out. The Wikipedia page for 3rd party evidence is very thorough.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

              • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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                6 months ago

                I did find the Chandrayaan 2 photo, comrade. There certainly is an... object there:

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                The problem I have with photos like these is there just isn't enough resolution to make a positive ID. There is a craft there, yes, but crafts (as well as "traces" of landings that the Chinese scientist mentions) are still consistent with the hypothesis that NASA sent an unmanned, one-way probe containing a retrofelector and a radio repeater.

                • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
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                  6 months ago

                  Did the unmanned probe drive around buggies all by itself? Leave a little bit of garbage here and there?

                  That is not a hypothesis. It is a conspiracy that is talking out of its ass.

                  Again, I am not sure if you can read Russian, but the Soviet space agency fully tracked the entire Apollo process from start to finish. They even had military units in the area of the astronaut touchdown. They followed it from start to finish, so where did NASA get the chance to sneak in astronauts during the process?

                  Please stop. This is one of the stupidest conspiracies there is along with flat earth, and people who genuinely believe it are beyond stupid. I would also like to laugh at the US for something, but this isn’t it.

                  Does this image from the Japanese flyover do anything for you? It’s a higher resolution and shows that those “objects” perfectly line up with where they were set up by the astronauts and filmed, with the angles, distances, and directions all being correct. This is several hundred meters from the landing site the astronauts traveled to.

                  An unmanned probe doesn’t set up a bunch of scientific equipment by itself several hundred meters away from the landing zone.

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                  Actual landing zone better resolution.

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