Nothing said on this site will even move the needle on Covid, because we have zero power and zero influence. Every political faction and institution has given up on Covid and no one here can do anything about it. There's zero point in a struggle session because the struggle ended and we lost.
Okay? So then why not let people just vent on this site about their partner exposing them to covid in this hopeless situation instead of starting a big struggle session about it if it doesn't matter?
no point at alienating the average worker by scolding them over what is considered a dead issue.
But it's not a dead issue, and there is a correct and an incorrect position on it. How is it scolding to try and correct the incorrect position most people have regarding covid? It's only scolding if you believe in the first place that Covid is some tangential issue and we've now moved into the "personal risk assessment" phase where if you want to still be concerned about covid you can be, but it's no longer necessary. I'm wondering if you would consider it scolding to correct other incorrect positions the average worker might hold that run counter to the general socialist programme.
Most doctors and hospitals also didn't recommend taking ivermectin and plenty of people were convinced of that. I mean how do you convince anyone of anything? Are you asking me how to talk to people and form relationships?
If you don't want to make it a moral issue stress that it is a material issue.
I mean I do agree that it would have been nice if unions took up the mantle of pushing for anti-Covid policies (I think initially there was and there was a good bit of resistance to things like back-to-office policies, etc., but ultimately they conceded on those due to the pressure). But I don't think we should just be waiting for the anti-Covid push to be coming down from on high, we can talk to people in our day-to-day lives about this stuff, especially our partners (like in the other thread) and maybe we won't get them to completely change their behavior, but they might start taking some precautions, and for others we'll plant the seed of maybe covid is still a big deal. There are a lot of people out there who are not so pro-Covid as much as they are just ignorant due to confusion and the massive propaganda push to create an end to the pandemic.
yeah I realize we're all in different situations, and our approaches to different people in our lives will of course always be different, some people might be more receptive while others are more against it. But I don't think the solution is to just throw up our hands. We advocate where we can, and although it might be inadequate, it's more adequate than doing nothing.
There's zero point in a struggle session because the struggle ended and we lost
Nah, the COVID struggle is actually the biggest source of potential revolutionary movement we'll get this decade
COVID makes at least 5% (maybe more) of the population's lives unlivable
Therefore, this section of the population has a material interest in avoiding COVID at all costs
The only way to avoid COVID is to form parallel communities
It's not popular because normies haven't figured it out. I figured it out in 2020 which means the mainstream might by 2027 or so, but I've been right about every single thing about this pandemic years before the scientists and the news media and idc if I'm bragging
You can't cure long-COVID if you're breathing in COVID! Stop breathing in COVID (at least in my case) and it goes away! I'm probably not a biological freak, so my experience is probably generalizable to huge swathes of the long-COVID population
Very simple!
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If you follow this logic, why wouldn't you give up on organizing for socialism in america because most workers oppose it?
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Okay? So then why not let people just vent on this site about their partner exposing them to covid in this hopeless situation instead of starting a big struggle session about it if it doesn't matter?
But it's not a dead issue, and there is a correct and an incorrect position on it. How is it scolding to try and correct the incorrect position most people have regarding covid? It's only scolding if you believe in the first place that Covid is some tangential issue and we've now moved into the "personal risk assessment" phase where if you want to still be concerned about covid you can be, but it's no longer necessary. I'm wondering if you would consider it scolding to correct other incorrect positions the average worker might hold that run counter to the general socialist programme.
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Most doctors and hospitals also didn't recommend taking ivermectin and plenty of people were convinced of that. I mean how do you convince anyone of anything? Are you asking me how to talk to people and form relationships?
If you don't want to make it a moral issue stress that it is a material issue.
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I mean I do agree that it would have been nice if unions took up the mantle of pushing for anti-Covid policies (I think initially there was and there was a good bit of resistance to things like back-to-office policies, etc., but ultimately they conceded on those due to the pressure). But I don't think we should just be waiting for the anti-Covid push to be coming down from on high, we can talk to people in our day-to-day lives about this stuff, especially our partners (like in the other thread) and maybe we won't get them to completely change their behavior, but they might start taking some precautions, and for others we'll plant the seed of maybe covid is still a big deal. There are a lot of people out there who are not so pro-Covid as much as they are just ignorant due to confusion and the massive propaganda push to create an end to the pandemic.
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yeah I realize we're all in different situations, and our approaches to different people in our lives will of course always be different, some people might be more receptive while others are more against it. But I don't think the solution is to just throw up our hands. We advocate where we can, and although it might be inadequate, it's more adequate than doing nothing.
Nah, the COVID struggle is actually the biggest source of potential revolutionary movement we'll get this decade
It's not popular because normies haven't figured it out. I figured it out in 2020 which means the mainstream might by 2027 or so, but I've been right about every single thing about this pandemic years before the scientists and the news media and idc if I'm bragging
You can't cure long-COVID if you're breathing in COVID! Stop breathing in COVID (at least in my case) and it goes away! I'm probably not a biological freak, so my experience is probably generalizable to huge swathes of the long-COVID population
Very simple!
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and yet there are tens of thousands of people who have long covid and can't live life normally
There's nothing left to describe. We can't live with this virus, so we move away from it.
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