I'm leaning Roz since Cuba is the one AES state its kinda socially acceptable for westoids to have a kinda positive opinion of.

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    5 months ago

    Does WTYP have a reputation for lib shit? I was binging them a while ago and my impression was basically "pretty good politically, probably could be better but I'm not complaining"

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I went through a phase where I listened to a ton of it and encountered nothing concerning and was enjoying it quite a bit, then there were a couple where Liam and Alice said some stupid radlib nonsense and I guess went completely feral when they got a little pushback.

      Then they brought on Adam Something, a "former Nazi" to shit all over the Soviet Union and other eastern bloc countries and whined continuously about tankies. I told myself "I listen to other podcasts whose hosts aren't actual communists, I can just skip to other episodes" but found that all the episodes after that had one moment or another of Liam and Alice whining about soviet-playful

      • davel [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        I followed Adam Something until the Ukraine war started, and then found out he’s completely bonkers. He’s made at least two videos on how a nuclear retaliation against Russia might be good, actually.

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        5 months ago

        Azov ϟϟomething

        I am once again asking the left to stop chasing after fascists and putting their efforts into converting fascists but instead to put their efforts into closely vetting the people who they allow to become leaders.

        We've really gotta stop glamourising ex-fascists and start viewing them with a deeply critical lens.

        Either they're just a flip-flopper/grifter like Faraday Speaks ("So I watched some YouTube videos from reactionaries and I decided I was also a reactionary, then I watched some videos from leftists and I decided that I'm now a leftist, since then I have decided that I'm some sort of centrist [I think? Idk]... Love me, love me love me - I'm the ideological equivalent of a windvane") or they are an actual fascist but it takes a very long time to undo fascist programming.

        I'm happy to give golf claps to converts who get paraded around as proof that people can change etc. but there's a reason why the black community doesn't immediately stick the ex-Klansmen who had a change of heart a fortnight ago into a position of leadership; the left needs to be warm and welcoming to people who are new but there's a massive difference between extending hospitality and appointing people to positions of leadership and throwing tons of cash their way.

        Edit: Look at this shit. Aside from the fact that it's a stale af, Facebook boomer tier soapboxing image dressed up as a meme... are we to assume that Adam Shitthing is intending to argue that trans people are degen*rates?

        Show

        Because that's the established discourse internal to this meme.

        It's hard to imagine that someone as online as he is failing to grasp what this meme implies. Wtf is going on there??

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          Yeah, I'm all for converting Fascists and they have a role in preventing people from becoming fash. But You Do Not Let Them Become Cadre. Or propagandists outside a narrow sphere of anti fascism. They're simply not politically reliable.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          Listen until it gets bad, learning about some of those disasters is pretty interesting.

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      Don't check out there episode on Romania with their guest Azov Something.

      Also Liam once cited the fictional movie Enemy at the Gate as a source for what happened at Stalingrad.

      In general Liam fucking sucks.

    • soli@infosec.pub
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      5 months ago

      Liam is proudly anti-communist, American and anti-intellectual. Alice can have some pretty bad takes but it's overall fine, the real issue is she folds really quickly to the peer pressure when Liam starts getting aggressive while Rocz just wants to talk about trains. So the general dynamic is Alice will say something vaguely communist then Liam will start yelling insane half remembered black book shit at her until she goes "I guess that's true..." to get him to stop. There will be an awkward pause then Rocz will resume talking about trains.

      I never thought I'd miss the mansplaining discourse circa 2010 but here I am, desperate for the unearned confidence of a wildly below average man yelling over a woman until she submits to be called out.

      I really do hate the guy. He loves to brag about just being the most selfish piece of shit and putting other people's lives at risk. He revels in the fact that he refuses to learn anything - not just politically, but on any topic they cover that's not like beer and sports. This would be too on the nose as a caricature making fun of the average American.

      Then all he does is complain about having an extremely cushy, absurdly well paid job and how he doesn't want to do it. Just quit already you pig.

      • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        This would be too on the nose as a caricature making fun of the average American.

        I still can't believe they kept him on after the episode where he proudly spends the entire time watching sports and loudly commenting on it

        Literally fire him and either have Devon step in full time or hire Gareth Dennis as third seat

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        At least we get periodic dunkings on him from his trot dad when he says something particularly egregious.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      Liam is the fucking worst and ruins the whole thing. Alice sometimes sucks and is best left talking about bond movies. Rocz is the only worthwhile host.